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Posted: Jul 16 2008 09:27 pm

PROS:
It's got Christian Bale.
It's MFing Terminator
No Arnold. (He's too old and flabby to be a Terminator anymore.)

CONS:
It was directed by McG, who biggest film was Charlie's Angels 2.

Title: Midnight Scientist Joined: Dec 07 2006 Posts: 518

I really don't know if I want to see this. It looks like it can go either way.

Posted: Jul 16 2008 11:50 pm

so... is this a reimagining of the terminator series? is it part 4? whats considered canon and what isnt?

Posted: Jul 17 2008 02:24 am

Im very excited that they are coming out with a new film, but I am very concerned that they are spreading the terminator out too thin. I guess everyone is just intrigued with the storyline. I am a huge Terminator fan, so I am not complanining.

Posted: Jul 17 2008 03:34 am

Knyte wrote:

No Arnold. (He's too old and flabby to be a Terminator anymore.)

There's no Arnold because he says violence is bad for you now.

Posted: Jul 17 2008 09:41 am

Knyte wrote:

CONS:
It was directed by McG, who biggest film was Charlie's Angels 2.

You forgot that it'll probably be rated PG-13. Even if they go for a "hard" PG-13.

Regardless of the rating, what I'm really looking forward to are the older Terminator models. We've only seen them getting better with the T-1000 and T-X. It'll be interesting to see models build before the T-800 series.

Posted: Jul 17 2008 09:52 am

DarknessDeku wrote:

There's no Arnold because he says violence is bad for you now.

Uh, there's no Arnold because he retired from acting to RUN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

Anyway, fuck this. The Terminator franchise is Arnold Schwarzenegger in sunglasses. I don't care how many explosions you put in it, it's nothing without him. So it's got Bale, big fucking deal. It's directed by the fucking producer of Tne OC and it's a sad attempt by the studio to rape a popular franchise for a little extra money. It's like if they decided to make a sequel to the Fifth Element, but Willis wouldn't do it so they recast Stone Cold Steve Austin as Korben Dallas. If you go and see this movie, you insta-fail.

Joined: Feb 24 2006 Posts: 2578

I actually really dug the Charlie's Angels movies, they were a lot of fun.

That being said, as far as I'm concerned, the only real Terminator is what James Cameron created. Jonathon Mostow whizzed all over that with Terminator 3, and when I saw this promo image for The Sarah Connor Chronicles, I laughed my ass off:

It's like "The WB presents... The GLAMORnator!" No. This is just shameless cashing in. I'm not saying some of these people aren't trying to make good movies/series, but this is not Cameron's tech noir. This is crap.

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I think we're all overlooking the fact that even if arnold wanted to be in this movie, there's no role even written for him.

Posted: Jul 17 2008 12:00 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

DarknessDeku wrote:

There's no Arnold because he says violence is bad for you now.

Uh, there's no Arnold because he retired from acting to RUN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

Anyway, fuck this. The Terminator franchise is Arnold Schwarzenegger in sunglasses. I don't care how many explosions you put in it, it's nothing without him. So it's got Bale, big fucking deal. It's directed by the fucking producer of Tne OC and it's a sad attempt by the studio to rape a popular franchise for a little extra money. It's like if they decided to make a sequel to the Fifth Element, but Willis wouldn't do it so they recast Stone Cold Steve Austin as Korben Dallas. If you go and see this movie, you insta-fail.

I have nothing significant to add to this, because it is absolutely correct. Every bit.

Posted: Jul 17 2008 01:09 pm

I dunno, I am very wary of any of these new imagined sequels, or even redo's these days. Like Rob Zombie's Halloween. I love Rob Zombie, but that kinda sucked the sweaty hairs on my left nut.

Joined: Feb 24 2006 Posts: 2578

Arnold's Terminator will be in the movie... played by Not Arnold:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/37505

The great thing is that Kickinger played Arnold in "See Arnold Run." Very Happy

Posted: Jul 18 2008 04:01 am

Oh, Syd, I owe it to the Terminator series to be there at a Midnight showing. I mean, I saw T3 on opening day, I watched every episode of Sarah Connor, Im going to see it no matter what because that's what fans of a series do, no matter how bad a film is.

I am just SO concerned about the fact they are taking the Terminator storyline and beating the shit out of it. Wasnt there something about not being able to fight during the day because they will spot you? Granted, the music is very imaginative in the preview, and I am very disturbedly anxious to see this film. It's like watching your favorite car sit and rot in your yard. It was once the best car you've ever driven, but now it wont even run and you can't get rid of it.

How soon until we see a Terminator film direct to video? Ya know? Its like "Please let this franchise rest after the atrocity that is T3".

Posted: Jul 18 2008 04:48 am

They should've stopped at 2. That's all I'll say.

Title: Midnight Scientist Joined: Dec 07 2006 Posts: 518

So I'm the only one that liked 3?

Posted: Jul 18 2008 10:54 pm

i didnt hate part 3. i didnt think it was great, but i love watching arnold as the terminator. and what other movie have you seen a robot orgasm? exactly

Posted: Jul 19 2008 05:52 am

kenthegod wrote:

So I'm the only one that liked 3?

T3 wasn't a bad movie. It just wasn't a good Terminator movie. As far as pure action goes I liked it. If you just watch it as regular Arnold action flick it absolutely delivers.

Joined: Aug 26 2007 Posts: 2752

So this is suppose to be T4? T2 is the best, because other then Arnold, the T-1000 was the best killing machine in the series or even dare i say ever. So what, are we going to see all models before T-800 kill off humans? And we probably will get a pov of the robot HQ and see the buildup leading to T-800 And don't forget they have to add reference to the fallout after the nuke attack at the end of . . . spolier . . . T3. I don't know, the series always belong to Arnold and i guess if your a hard core fan of the series, then this might be appealing.

I do have one question, if Arnold is the T-800 and the liquid metal man is T-1000 then what was the T-900?

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no arnold = no terminator

this is a very very very bad idea.

Joined: Feb 24 2006 Posts: 2578

Wasn't Arnold originally the 101, as in "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101"?

Note the eye: http://eatbrie.com/large_posters_files/Terminator1.jpg

Posted: Jul 19 2008 04:17 pm

ReeperTheSeeker wrote:

I do have one question, if Arnold is the T-800 and the liquid metal man is T-1000 then what was the T-900?

I didn't know this before, but apparently the T-900 had a cameo in T3.

DarkMaze wrote:

Wasn't Arnold originally the 101, as in "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101"?

Yeah, Cameron cleared that up in the commentary on the T2 DVD: 101 refers to the model (what the Terminator looks like) while 800 refers to the series (what generation of cyborg it is). So theoretically you could have a Series 800 Model 101 Terminator fight a Series 1000 Model 101 Terminator, both of which would look like Schwarzenegger.

Posted: Jul 20 2008 11:24 am

T3 was alright, but it had three major faults:

A. No Sarah Connor
B. They should have gotten Edward Furlong as John Connor, especially since his character in 3 is a pillfiend, and Furlong is in real life
C. It directly mimiced T2 in a low-rent sort of way (the crane-truck chase scene in T3 was a weak attempt to match the excitement of the dirtbike/motorcycle/18-wheeler chase scene from T2.)

The thing it did the best was bring die-hard terminator fans all the way up to Judgement Day, and at least T4 will actually show us the war against the machines.

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Tyop wrote:

Knyte wrote:

CONS:
It was directed by McG, who biggest film was Charlie's Angels 2.

You forgot that it'll probably be rated PG-13. Even if they go for a "hard" PG-13.

Regardless of the rating, what I'm really looking forward to are the older Terminator models. We've only seen them getting better with the T-1000 and T-X. It'll be interesting to see models build before the T-800 series.

Yea I'm interested in seeing that as well. If I remember correctly, those robotic "tanks" in T3 that were rampaging around the building were the first terminators. I'm pretty sure I saw a model# on them in one scene......if Arnold is a T-101, I think these were labeled T-10 or something like that. I've got to watch it again to confirm.

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GPFontaine wrote:

no arnold = no terminator

this is a very very very bad idea.

Posted: Jul 28 2008 12:21 pm

Wow, this looks like it will be even worse than Terminator 3