I guess this title will grab the attention of quite a few people....

Now let me explain, I haven't played Street Fighter 2 in a very long time, its been years since I've touched any Street Fighter game for that matter. But recently, I found the Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2, and saw that Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo was on it. I was never familiar with Super Turbo but I picked it up thinking that I could warm up and get back in the game...

Even on the easiest difficulty, I find Super Turbo to be incredibly difficult, computer characters are able to dish out death faster than a machine gun, Cammy's crescent kicks and Sagat's tiger uppercuts come in never ending barrages and completely destroy me. I play as ChunLi, and I used to remember being able to get through the hardest difficulty on the SNES no problem.... now I have a hard time on the easiest difficulty.

Discouraged for a while, I found the Street Fighter Anniversary Collection and decided to pick it up so I can get into 3rd Strike. I tried out the Street Fighter II game on it anyway to see if it was any different, now that I had kind of gotten used to ChunLi's Super Turbo moves, I went with that.... Once again I got my ass handed to me. The computers are all masters of blocking and countering, and know my every move before I even make em.... I have no chance!

I was wondering if anybody else with either of these 2 games find Street Fighter II to be impossibly difficult? Or have I gotten so rusty that Cammy on the easiest difficulty is able to obliterate me?

Are all the newest incarnations of SFII (post year 2000) crazy difficult? I was wondering how the Street Fighter Collection on PlayStation/Saturn released back in the late 90's is, as its said to be a "near arcade perfect" port of Super Street Fighter II and Super Street Fighter II Turbo.

Murdar Machene wrote:

The SNES version was completely broken and had all wrong timings from the arcade and sega genesis versions, so it's no surprise that you suck at the real game. I get raped at SF 2 and super turbo, too. The only ones I can beat are alpha 1-3 and third strike.

Do you have any suggestions as to which recent (or non recent) console incarnation of SFII is the best? Sorry to repeat myself, but are the Street Fighter Collection games for Playsation acceptable ports?

It's good fun playing SFII again with friends, but still... embarrassing when I can't even touch Sagat with ChunLi. The very second I jump he tiger uppercuts me and by the time I land he's already throwing fireballs like mad... no chance!!!

After digging around the internet for a little, I've found a whole lot of people also complaining about the difficulty of the Anthology Collection version of SFII... Super Street Fighter II Turbo's AI is supposed to be able to read the inputs on the gamepad buttons that the player makes. So basically this gives the AI the ability to respond very quickly to any attacks and use an appropriate counter attack, without really mattering what difficulty they are set to.

It turns out oddly enough, that the Japanese versions of all recent Super Turbo ports don't have this type of crazy AI at all... Apparently, the new Super Turbo HD Remix is being developed off of a Sega Dreamcast (Jpn only) version of Super Turbo, which is supposingly one of the only near arcade perfect port alongside the 1990's SF Collections.

In conclusion, all recent versions of Super Turbo are crazy hard in North America, but normal and unbroken (referring to how easy the games were on SNES) in Japan... best bet is to go with the SF PS Collection for the closest thing to a good time.

Ah well, SF 3rd Strike is crazy awesome, I've only started getting into the game.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Smurfsrdead wrote: In conclusion, all recent versions of Super Turbo are crazy hard in North America, but normal and unbroken (referring to how easy the games were on SNES) in Japan... best bet is to go with the SF PS Collection for the closest thing to a good time. The arcade version of Super Street Fighter II Turbo was crazy hard too...outside of Japan. The Japanese arcade version, Super Street Fighter II X: Grandmaster Challenge, had different, and much more lenient AI programming. There's nothing broken about the AI in Capcom Classics Collection volume 2 or in Street Fighter Anniversary Collection. The game was always that hard in North America. Oh, and everyone knows better than to jump in on any character with a good anti-air move, which is pretty much everyone in SSF2T.

Thanks for the information. Some things are beginning to seem contradictory to me though... the general consensus about the SF Collection for Playstation/Saturn is that SSF2T is significantly easier on it than it is on the Anniversary Collection/XBox Live/Capcom Collection, etc, and if the SF Collection version is supposedly an "arcade perfect port" whereas SSF2T in the American arcades has always been quite difficult, then there is something fishy going on here... I guess I'm going to have to try and grab a copy of the SF Collection for Playstation one of these days to see for myself. BTW - I'm really talking about Sagat's infinite spam of Tiger Shot and Tiger Uppercut, I can't really figure out how to get around it with a character like ChunLi.

Skynet? I LOL'ed. Too bad Terminator 4 will suck hard.