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Blackout wrote:

Vaenamoenen wrote: Interesting detail: before bombers/shooters ethnicity & religious connections (native norvegian, right-wing christian) came into the light... I don't think it's fair to call him "Christian" when he's going out and indiscriminately slaughtering a bunch of people. You know...the exact opposite of what Jesus said to do. Is there a large anti-Christian (really should be 'anti-Catholic', though) bias in Scandinavia? The few people I've run into from there (3-Sweden and 1-Norway) were reeeaaaaly bad about expressing their bias; loudly and often (like a Youtube commenter brought to life).

It is as fair to call him christian as it is fair to call Bin-Laden a muslim, and I am sure 99% of muslims in the world are ashamed of what islamist terrorists do in the name of Allah, just as you and other christians are ashamed of what this fucker did in the name of the christian god.

Btw, I am norwegian, and it is true that among young people, christianity and other religions are not really regarded very well here. It is probably not as bad as how americans view islam, but in general young norwegians tend to be anti-religious and consider most things that have to do with religion as stupid and old-fashioned. Its probably because our liberal, semi-socialist society is so far away from the conservative societies that christianity traditionally have been a strong supporter of. On the other hand, most norwegians are fine with people being religious as long as they keep the religion out of the public.

On the subject of punishment, it is true that 21 years is considered life-penalty in Norway, however, there is something called "forvaring" who is used on dangerous criminals. Basically, it means that after 21 years a special comitee can decide that the criminal is a threat to public security, and therefore extend his trial for five years - and this can be done an infinite number of times, to make him, in practice, jailed for life.