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The map is a lie...


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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 06:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Mercator projection:

Does this make you happy?

Do you feel safe... cozy... warm. Like you know the earth that you live on?

Well... your world is a lie. A fucking lie... Canada just got smaller, and Mexico just got bigger.

Gall–Peters projection:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall%E2%80%93Peters_projection



This shit is freaking me out.



 
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Sehkmaenzo
Joined: Jun 29 2010
PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 07:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Actually I learned about this in high school. Mercator's projection makes the northern areas look much bigger, and the southern areas smaller. I remember my teacher saying it was made that way to make Europe look more impressive and majestic, while making Africa and South America look smaller and weaker. I'm pretty sure he was full of shit, but it would make sense, Europe was colonizing the shit out of everyone at the time Mercator came up with his projection (15XX)
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Valdronius
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PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 07:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I heard it was because they made maps by wrapping a piece of paper around the equator of a globe, and the projection from the globe made the land nearer the poles stretched and skewed.


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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
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PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 08:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Let's skin the crust off the earth with some sort of unimaginably large machine and spread it out on a God's coffee table to make damn sure we get an accurate measurement!



 
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 09:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Meh.


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Mr. Satire
Joined: Jun 08 2010
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PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 09:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sehkmaenzo wrote:
Actually I learned about this in high school.

This.

Also, I like how my country is taller on the Gall-Peters map. Smile


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SNESGuy
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PostPosted: Apr 10 2011 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Drew Linky wrote:
Meh.

Double Meh


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Sehkmaenzo
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 06:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

Mr. Satire wrote:
Sehkmaenzo wrote:
Actually I learned about this in high school.

This.

Hmmm... So, they only tell us southies? Maybe my teacher was on to something Razz
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Alowishus
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 08:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

I knew this, probably cause i'm doing a degree in geography :p
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 10:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

They probably taught me this in school, I just don't remember. Probably because it really doesn't matter that much.


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Alowishus
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 10:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Probably because it really doesn't matter that much.

Surprised You just didn't go there!
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Slayer1
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 10:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Every time I see this thread, I think it says "The Mop is a lie" and I get in the hopes of an awesome mop fight amongst ninja masters... damn

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brellow
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 10:45 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hi guys! Turns out you can't make a rectangular map of the earth by cutting the skin off and spreading it around. To force the surface of the earth into a rectangular shape you have to make a sacrifice. You may either preserve the distance between points (aka preserve a countries size) or you may preserve the angles between two points. Back when Mercator was living the primary use for a world map was by international travel...across the ocean. So he came up with his projection that preserved angles between points so that people could use it to plot courses accurately.

Where did I learn this? Mathematics, you can prove that you must sacrifice angles or distance with some topology or some inventive calculus. Of course people alive now don't ever learn that and when they discover that most of the continents are much bigger than they thought, they start talking about having been lied to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercator_projection#Properties_and_historical_details

Also, Isn't Africa scary large for a place that isn't in the news often?


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 11:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Alowishus wrote:
Black Zarak wrote:
Probably because it really doesn't matter that much.

Surprised You just didn't go there!
Hey, I'm an American, I don't have to care about geography!


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Alowishus
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 01:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:

Hey, I'm an American, I don't have to care about geography!

brellow wrote:

Also, Isn't Africa scary large for a place that isn't in the news often?

Oh you guys....

Libya is in Africa.

This Is A Joke

...well it is sort of a joke.. it really is there!
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aika
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 02:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, I knew this years ago. :3 You can't take a sphere's surface and turn it into a flat rectangle without some sort of distortion.

Also, just changing the map can vastly change your perspective on things. How about an Asia-centric map?



Or...



Perspective really changes things :O


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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
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PostPosted: Apr 11 2011 02:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Aika... that second map makes the Americas the shitty continent in an RPG... Come on... you know there is always one shitty continent.



 
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