Is the Wii actually bound for greatness, or is it just a gimmicky get-rich-quick scheme for Nintendo?

In my opinion, the Wii seems to be potential going to waste. If Nintendo had their finger anywhere near the pulse of what the fuck real gamers wanted, the first titles on the VC would have been awesome third party shit like Chrono Trigger and Perfect Dark, and some solid first party titles such as Super Metroid. Who cares about TG-16, you could play better versions of everything it had on Sega CD, in arcades, or on SNES. So it had one good pinball game, awesome.

Another gripe I have with the Wii is when the developers just make a complex movement as a substitute for a button press. If I'm making a goddamn complex movement, it had damn well better translate into the game directly. Yeah, remember that "sword fighting game" that was coming out on the Wii? Everyone talked about it! You could do the moves like this and that and it does what YOU do in the game! Oh, hey, where's that swordfighting game, Nintendo? The big secret is, there never will be a cool 1:1 sword fighting game for the Wii; The Wii is a fucking MOUSE CURSOR, literally, it's a big goddamn mouse cursor that you wave around stupidly. GOOD JOB IDIOTS.


It's depressing to see a company with such great potential go to waste, especially when other platforms are just acting like shitty, gimped PC's. Nintendo had the creativity and vision at one point to single handedly bring about the first gaming renaissance, practically.


I'm gonna go kill myself now, I just solved my own goddamn conspiracy theory. Good night, America.

Now if someone would just put the last part of Ryconna's post in here...

Jaguar wrote:

business

That is not art, or entertainment. That's "making money". I suppose that is the central failing of all modern consoles AND mainstream PC games. It's all about money, not quality anymore.

The two prime examples I use for why money doesn't have to have a thing to do with game quality are freeware PC games and mods. Those are both free and made strictly for fun. Or, hell, maybe they're a resume to get hired of a real programming team. Either way, the word "business" doesn't factor into them, and they're fun.

In a time when "true gamers" need a bone tossed their way more than ever, we're getting something to appeal to a "wider market" of gamers? We're getting watered down bullshit to make sales? Maybe if more "hardcore" games were coming out, there would be more "hardcore gamers" to play and buy them...?

I mean, why is it me and Mr.Bomberman can fire up a game of Jackal, and have more fun than I've had in the last 4 years playing any bland PC or console game?

Dr. Jeebus wrote:

1,000 first person shooters and 1,000 WWII sims

Barf, I don't think anyone would argue that's what a hardcore gamer would want. I was always happy with just a few FPS games, as long as they were of high quality and unique. Stuff like Duke Nukem 3d, Shadow Warrior, Blood, Rogue Spear, Quake 1, and Half-Life. Those are the main ones I've always liked.

I too see the potential in the VC though, I just wish the pricing was a little more reasonable. Maybe they should do a "bulk discount" rate, where if you buy a bunch of shit at once you save more.

Speaking of those PSX demo discs, I probably played the demo for armored core against my friends more than I did any other PSX game, let alone the full version of armored core itself.

I thought the discussion was leading us to good places personally...