Meh, I'm not at all excited for the motion controls revolution that's apparantly on the horizon. Playing the Wii for me is an exercise in patience because the controls can get so fucked up so quickly and really don't add anything to the games.

Knyte wrote:

I don't think motion sensing will ever completely replace controllers. While hands free interaction work for some games (Casual and family games), other are much better suited to controllers. (RPG, Platformers, etc.)

Tell that to fucking Nintendo who think motion controls belong in every single game. God, I hate the Wii.

I always liked the suspended fruit bowl they had in the McFly house. All you have to do is just yell "FRUIT!" and the Supermarket fruit section comes down. Pretty sweet. That dehydrated pizza looked really good too.

I know. Natal is just moving further into the retarded direction that Nintendo only wanted to go half-way down. Controller or not, buttons or not, I'm still waving my arms around like an idiot trying to interact with a stupid ass sensor bar instead of focusing on the damn video game.

I really do believe that even if you're holding a Wii remote, for the most part motion controls have replaced the controller on the Wii. It was replaced when I am forced to flick my wrist to attack instead of pressing A.

Syd, I agreed with you that Natal is retarded taking the concept Nintendo introduced with the Wii too many steps further by eliminating all tactile sensations. But you have to agree as well that holding a shortened plastic tennis raquet hitting an imaginary ball is less tactile than real life, so it's halfway between reality and what Natal is doing, which is what I meant by Nintendo only going halfway. They could have gone full on motion with the Wii, but they kept some tacticity even when you still are just waving your arm in the air with no real force feedback. I never disagreed with you about humanity's need to hold a chunk of plastic, but even half-way sucks balls in my opinion.

You may feel like the thread has evolved past complaints about motion controls in your own head, but that's exactly what you're complaining about with Natal. Put a psychological spin on it, fine, but you're still saying "Wah, motion controls suck, especially if I can't hold a controller!"

I think my contributions to the thread were on topic and did further the discussion, even if you disagree with me about most Wii games relying on unintuitive motion controls, and I don't really feel like my posts warrant a threat from you.