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The problem with the passwords is I always lost them or they got thrown away. Imagine the annoyance of trying to get Indiana Jone's passwords, which was made up of crude letters that don't translate well to the Internet.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 01:26 pm

LeshLush wrote:

I think what's even worse is that today's kids have no notion of what it's like to keep up with a notebook of passwords. Man, the ritual of writing down the passwords for the next level of Castlevania, and then looking them up the next time you played was almost as fun as playing the game itself.

Ever play River City Ransom? Fun my balls.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 01:53 pm

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

LeshLush wrote:

I think what's even worse is that today's kids have no notion of what it's like to keep up with a notebook of passwords. Man, the ritual of writing down the passwords for the next level of Castlevania, and then looking them up the next time you played was almost as fun as playing the game itself.

Ever play River City Ransom? Fun my balls.

Are smack talking RCR?

Posted: Nov 12 2009 02:21 pm

Rydog wrote:

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

LeshLush wrote:

I think what's even worse is that today's kids have no notion of what it's like to keep up with a notebook of passwords. Man, the ritual of writing down the passwords for the next level of Castlevania, and then looking them up the next time you played was almost as fun as playing the game itself.

Ever play River City Ransom? Fun my balls.

Are smack talking RCR?

Its password system? Absolutely!

Posted: Nov 12 2009 02:34 pm

I agree, Since the typical RCR password looked like:

gH83jw198wpW
u5Bd32oI2sPd1
Sd0oXja2Wnw2

And, if you fucked up a single digit the password didn't work.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

I hated the mantra's in Faxanadu, but it didn't stop me from playing through it dozens of times because well, I love Faxanadu.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Nov 12 2009 05:48 pm

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

I've tried playing through Zelda II on emulators, but I haven't been able to find a ROM that runs smoothly. The only emulator I've used is Nesticle, but Zelda II is always choppy on it.

VirtuaNES runs it nicely.

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I think what's even worse is that today's kids have no notion of what it's like to keep up with a notebook of passwords. Man, the ritual of writing down the passwords for the next level of Castlevania, and then looking them up the next time you played was almost as fun as playing the game itself.

Passwords suck. Suck suck suck.

Worst system I've seen ever was for Guardian Legend. Someone mentioned Faxanadu, which deserves a special kick in the balls for not being a consistent length.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

You deserve a special kick in your bunny nether regions for saying something bad about my 3rd favorite game ever. Laughing

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Nov 12 2009 08:28 pm

What, Faxanadu? You said you hated the passwords yourself.

And as for TGL, that's honestly the only legitimate complaint I can lodge about the game. (I don't consider "THAT FUCKING FINAL BOSS IS A BITCHWHORE" legitimate, but still. He is.)

Worst password offender EVER is easily the NES King's Quest V. It uses a password despite actually having a save feature. But no battery. There's no excuse for that shit, particularly after the first time you play and you wonder where the hell your saved game is. And this was at a time when games that didn't even NEED save data were getting save batteries.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

Why the hell would you play Kings Quest V on the NES anyway?

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Rydog wrote:

I had pre-made Megaman grids, it was fun now that I think about it.

I did this. Then I actually cracked the password system and didn't look back Smile

RCR's got a legendary password system Very Happy

I've recorded LOTS of them in my day. Most worked, the ones that I didn't I probably screwed up somewhere. It was ok though, I loved the game and would just start over.

Gauntlet had a password system. And it was important to have one in that game. Those upper 90s levels are a bitch.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Nov 12 2009 09:06 pm

joshwoodzell wrote:

Why the hell would you play Kings Quest V on the NES anyway?

Because not everyone could afford a top of the line computer with those holy shit awesome VGA graphics back in the day.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 09:48 pm

I actually played King's Quest 1 through 4 on an EGA monitor. I hated computer games until we got a VGA monitor.

For passwords I always hated games that had uppercase letters, lowercase letters, and numbers. When you are writing down a password you usually want to get back to the game, and you don't always take the proper time to write them down. When a letter like C or S comes up it could easily screw you since the uppercase and lowercase letters are exactly the same except for size. And I brought up numbers because of the obvious O vs 0 and 1 vs l.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 10:18 pm

I remember Magic of Scheherazade had an awesome password system. If there was something wrong with your password, and you kept trying to put it in, it'd eventually just throw you into the world that your password indicated.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 10:38 pm

jackfrost wrote:

I actually played King's Quest 1 through 4 on an EGA monitor. I hated computer games until we got a VGA monitor.

For passwords I always hated games that had uppercase letters, lowercase letters, and numbers. When you are writing down a password you usually want to get back to the game, and you don't always take the proper time to write them down. When a letter like C or S comes up it could easily screw you since the uppercase and lowercase letters are exactly the same except for size. And I brought up numbers because of the obvious O vs 0 and 1 vs l.

EGA based games are amazing, don't know where you're coming from with that hate. Fucking Space Quest 1 was originally made as an EGA game, and Space Quest 1 = Teh Awesomeness/My Favorite Game Evar.

Posted: Nov 12 2009 11:06 pm

Passwords are bull, continues are not depending on the game.

The average game length for a NES or SNES was 2-3 hours. Losing progress was not that bad, so the name of the game was mastering the very difficult levels. Modern games are considered short at 20 hours, meaning losing progress is a big deal.

RPGs had limited save spots at one point because of limited hardware. I think that they are still a good idea, because taking them away removes the resource management aspect of the game thats so important to a good RPG. Two caveats, in that portable games should always have a quicksave, so that I can drop it quick and come back later, and that bosses (including and especially RPG bosses) should always have save spots beforehand. The dungeon is a test of your stamina, but a boss is a test of raw power.

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jackfrost wrote:

I actually played King's Quest 1 through 4 on an EGA monitor. I hated computer games until we got a VGA monitor.

For passwords I always hated games that had uppercase letters, lowercase letters, and numbers. When you are writing down a password you usually want to get back to the game, and you don't always take the proper time to write them down. When a letter like C or S comes up it could easily screw you since the uppercase and lowercase letters are exactly the same except for size. And I brought up numbers because of the obvious O vs 0 and 1 vs l.

I used to actually draw a small line over lowercase letters when I wrote them down to avoid that problem.

Posted: Nov 13 2009 01:47 am

Dr. Wily wrote:

jackfrost wrote:

I actually played King's Quest 1 through 4 on an EGA monitor. I hated computer games until we got a VGA monitor.

For passwords I always hated games that had uppercase letters, lowercase letters, and numbers. When you are writing down a password you usually want to get back to the game, and you don't always take the proper time to write them down. When a letter like C or S comes up it could easily screw you since the uppercase and lowercase letters are exactly the same except for size. And I brought up numbers because of the obvious O vs 0 and 1 vs l.

EGA based games are amazing, don't know where you're coming from with that hate. Fucking Space Quest 1 was originally made as an EGA game, and Space Quest 1 = Teh Awesomeness/My Favorite Game Evar.

You declaring something as your favorite game evar is bullcrap anyways. They change every sixteen hours or so.

Also, EGA = shit.

Posted: Nov 13 2009 12:14 pm

Nekkoru wrote:

Dr. Wily wrote:

jackfrost wrote:

I actually played King's Quest 1 through 4 on an EGA monitor. I hated computer games until we got a VGA monitor.

For passwords I always hated games that had uppercase letters, lowercase letters, and numbers. When you are writing down a password you usually want to get back to the game, and you don't always take the proper time to write them down. When a letter like C or S comes up it could easily screw you since the uppercase and lowercase letters are exactly the same except for size. And I brought up numbers because of the obvious O vs 0 and 1 vs l.

EGA based games are amazing, don't know where you're coming from with that hate. Fucking Space Quest 1 was originally made as an EGA game, and Space Quest 1 = Teh Awesomeness/My Favorite Game Evar.

You declaring something as your favorite game evar is bullcrap anyways. They change every sixteen hours or so.

Also, EGA = shit.

It does not change every sixteen hours, and EGA = Awesome.

Joined: Oct 19 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1479

I don't feel it was the passwords themselves that I enjoyed, it was the way that we ritualized the process. My cousin Bradley and I didn't have a notebook of Kid Icarus passwords, we had The Kid Icarus Password Book. The passwords and the keeping of them took on such a level of importance, we couldn't help but derive pleasure from being a member of the NES priesthood.