Doddsino wrote:

I also don't care for it, even though it was one of the first games I owned. Not only does it basically dumb Mario down for anyone to beat, but they redid the sprites in the original, which looks horrible. The only reason I ever owned it to begin with was because those were the days before I had an NES, and even then...I felt like I was cheating.

that is just your opinion....

I personally thought Super Mario 1 looked really good redone on the SNES. Super Mario 2 and 3 were just minor improvements, but still nice to have all three classic games plus the lost levels aka the real Mario 2.

also including Super Mario World to the mix, I would find anybody ignorant if they didnt want that particular cart in their collection for as many solid games you got on one cartridge.

The number 1 game most people would put in would be Super Mario World/Allstars after years of not playing their SNES. The other favs come later if your playing in private. I know this from experience from gamers and non gamers alike.

Mario is what we started on and it is what we will die on

Sedix19 wrote:

Rydog wrote: Have half of you never played Zelda? or just don't want it? Zelda sucks. Save for Twilight Princess, none of the games have ever appealed to me.

I dont think Zelda sucks, but it is a game that fits into a certain demographic more than others. People who are into magic and roleplaying tend to hold Zelda in high regard and act like its an sin against nature not to include it in a top 5 list anywhere.

Zelda, Final Fantasy and even Mega Man are games that aren't universally loved by every gamer out there I hate to say..... Mario is the only one, the people who say he isn't are lying or are playing Devil's Advocate. People who love Mario also like Sonic, but that a more complicated issue.

I love Journey to Silius because I actually could pretend I was that character. Mega Man seemed too cartoonish and 5 year old Disneylike. Duck Tales is awesome music wise, but as an early teen, who wants to pretend they are Scrooge on some cane stick and not feel like a huge nerd if a girl walks in? I would never feel that way with Journey to Silius or Contra.

I loved Maniac Mansion over Final Fantasy because I felt like my mind had to work in a fun way over just reading endless amounts of dialogue and feeling like I was in school reading a fantasy book. Maniac Mansion was fun because you could come back later and usually figure out what you needed to do. Maniac Mansion was basically a silly version of a Are you Afraid story you could chose step by step.

Zelda is fun, but it gets annoying if you get stuck in the middle of the game and stop having fun(Zelda II is majorly guilty of this). That is why I prefer Dragon Fighter over it. A short low budget game, but you dont get stuck and its fun the whole way through. Zelda II has major parts that suck and are unfun. LOZ doesnt have this problem, but the graphics were too crappy for me in 1992 to give it a solid chance(I was a graphic whore during the 1990's)

Hell Dirty Harry looks like a damn fun game from the male standpoint except that besides the graphics it sucks major hard and was coded like shit. WWF Wrestlemania was the perfect games for a young boy except it was coded like shit too. Zelda,Mega Man and Final Fantasy are really fluid games that play well, that doesnt mean everyone will like their premise.

Im sure there are holes in my argument, but I am just telling you my logic as someone who wasnt into Zelda,MegaMan/Ducktales, or Final Fantasy

the sprite of Super Mario on the NES looks like shit, a mixture of brown and red that doesnt mesh well

at least with SMB Remake Mario looked correct in all his incarnations