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The Sega Genesis underated?


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 07:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

I got a box of genesis games from a friend a while back and got all excited because I saw a Road Rash box amidst all the other loose carts. The box later turned out to be empty. Sad



 
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Ba'al
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 11:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cameron wrote:

...anyone feel like pointing out what's missing from my list?


Anything on here that isn't on your list?

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100. Mutant League Hockey
99. Fatal Fury
98. King of the Monsters
97. Sylvester and Tweety in Cagey Capers
96. Zero Wing
95. World Heroes
94. Sonic 3D Blast
93. Ranger X
92. Mega Turrican
91. Exo Squad
90. Art of Fighting
89. Streets of Rage
88. Clayfighter
87. Altered Beast
86. General Chaos
85. Cyborg Justice
84. Decap Attack: Starring Chuck D. Head
83. Batman: Revenge of the Joker
82. Smash TV
81. The Punisher
80. Out Run
79. King of the Monsters 2
78. Golden Axe
77. Forgotten Worlds
76. Alien Soldier
75. Mercs
74. Battletech
73. Mortal Kombat
72. Urban Strike
71. Toe Jam & Earl 2: Panic on Funkotron
70. Sonic the Hedgehog
69. Ms. Pac-Man
68. Rocket Knight Adventures
67. Mega Man: The Wily Wars
66. Jurassic Park
65. Bubsy II
64. Clayfighter
63. Bonanza Bros.
62. Saturday Night Slam Masters
61. Desert Demolition Starring Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote
60. WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game
59. Toe Jam & Earl
58. Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures
57. Micro Machines
56. Cool Spot
55. Boogerman
54. Batman
53. Alien Storm
52. Rock N' Roll Racing
51. Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi
50. Sonic Spinball
49. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Hyperstone Heist
48. Zombies Ate My Neighbors
47. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
46. Pulseman
45. Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
44. Jungle Strike
43. Battletoads
42. Bio-Hazard Battle
41. Aladdin
40. Golden Axe 2
39. Ghouls N' Ghosts
38. Road Rash 2
37. X-Men 2: Clone Wars
36. X-Men
35. Taz in Escape from Mars
34. Ristar
33. Mutant League Football
32. Kid Chameleon
31. Animaniacs
30. Sparkster
29. Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
28. Sol-Deace
27. Desert Strike
26. Beavis & Butt-Head
25. Ren & Stimpy: Stimpy's Invention
24. Samurai Shodown
23. B.O.B.
22. Battletoads & Double Dragon
21. Earthworm Jim
20. Golden Axe III
19. Gunstar Heroes
18. M.U.S.H.A.
17. Street Fighter II: Special Champion Edition
16. Mortal Kombat II
15. Mega Bomberman
14. Revenge of Shinobi
13. Road Rash 3
12. Streets of Rage 3
11. Comix Zone
10. Fatal Fury 2
9. Super Street Fighter II
8. Vectorman 2
7. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
6. Earthworm Jim 2
5. Streets of Rage 2
4. Dynamite Headdy
3. Contra: Hard Corps
2. Vectorman
1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 11:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Who made that list Ba'al? Contra: Hard Corps at 3? way ahead of Gunstar Heroes? Contra's difficulty makes it just ok.


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 12:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Genesis? Underrated? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...hah.

The Genesis's sound chip, while inferior to the SNES, could do metal and hard rock music better.

That list fails for not having any of the Thunder Force games. All kick-ass, speedy shooters.

Target Earth was also a cool one (if not fucking super "rip your brain out" hard) and the first in the Assault Suits series, which included Cybernator.


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Ermac
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 12:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Time for Syd to do a top Genesis games of all time(I wanted to get people in a Genesis mood) lol

60. WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game-WWF RAW was better
47. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 -Unplayably Bad
16. Mortal Kombat II -Sucked on the Genesis
1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles- Agreed for number 2 of all time


also Double Dragon was an almost exact arcade port on the Genesis, little people know that one. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 12:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cool Spot was awesome, it really was. For something so simple and something I ordinarily would not have liked, I played the shit out of that game. Also Knyte, if Rampart is the same sort of Rampart that was on NES and arcades, thank you for pointing it out as I had no idea it was on Genesis at all till now.


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 12:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I am going to nominate Flying Battery Zone from Sonic and Knuckles as one of the best video game music songs of all time.


It was the summer of 95, Sonic and Knuckles was the shit






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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 01:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Zero Wing? Are you serious? Aside from AYBABTU that game was like every other side scroller ever made...
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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 04:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

One of the biggest problems I've had with the Genesis is that the color palette in a lot of the games seems very limited to the point where most of the games look like they take place between afternoon and night- there's just not much brightness. It's too bad all of the chunky, pasty nostalgia-nerds just focus on the "blast processing" thing, though.

Otherwise, it was my favorite system. Going back and playing both systems, the Genesis' more powerful processor made the games more fun to play due to very little framerate drops (whereas most SNES games were plagued by it). This allows for good arcade ports, great shooters, swift platforming, etc. I always felt that SEGA made a lot of good moves in Japan, whereas the US divisions had really shitty marketing strategies. Ah well, that makes all of their systems cheaper on ebay.


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Ky-Guy
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 04:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

uncle joe wrote:
Shame on all of you for not mentioning the Cool Spot game.


I think I've played that game on the SNES before. Is it the game where you have to collect all those little red spots before you can get to the next level?

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Ermac wrote:
I am going to nominate Flying Battery Zone from Sonic and Knuckles as one of the best video game music songs of all time.


It was the summer of 95, Sonic and Knuckles was the shit






Actually, I think all of the songs from that game were freaking sweet. In fact, another song I like (which is from Sonic 3) is Hydrocity Act 1:


Also, I like the Guitar Hero video. That is made of win.


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 04:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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. I always felt that SEGA made a lot of good moves in Japan, whereas the US divisions had really shitty marketing strategies.


You do realize that Sega was, and pretty much always was, a distant third in Japan.
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 04:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
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. I always felt that SEGA made a lot of good moves in Japan, whereas the US divisions had really shitty marketing strategies.


You do realize that Sega was, and pretty much always was, a distant third in Japan.


Perhaps, but the Saturn did a hell of a lot better there than it did in the States.

Also, Japan had the most Sega Genesis/Megadrive variants. In fact, here's one that I actually kina want:

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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 07:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I loved the Hydrocity theme, however my favorite had to be the Chemical Plant level.




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Ky-Guy
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 07:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Neutral-bob wrote:
I loved the Hydrocity theme, however my favorite had to be the Chemical Plant level.




Actually. . . I can't argue with that. That is the best theme out of any Sonic game.


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 08:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Flying Battery Act 2 for the win.

Slayer1 wrote:
Zero Wing? Are you serious? Aside from AYBABTU that game was like every other side scroller ever made...

That's the only reason it made it.....otherwise Sol-Deace is the only real outstanding space shmup....


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 11:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

In response to Ba'al's list:

The first Fatal Fury kind of blows.

Zero Wing = overrated. The only reason why it's even still remembered is because of "All Your Base Are Belong To Us".

World Heroes is pretty mediocre as far as fighters go. On the same console that has all of the Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter II iterations, in addition to other great fighters, there really isn't any reason to play it.

I will never enjoy Mega Turrican. It's one thing to have the worst hit detection ever, but when a game literally has no hit detection whatsoever...just...no. Not fun.

Art of Fighting...also a mediocre fighter, although somewhat better than World Heroes.

Clayfighter is (and I know I'm probably going to be shot for this), for the most part, terrible. I just never saw what the big deal is, to say the least. It's a hard feeling to explain, but the main characters control like they're stuck in a whole bunch of mud; I had the same problem with Eternal Champions.

Decap Attack is essentially Generic Platformer #9201.

I never saw what the big deal with the first Golden Axe was. Now, the two Genesis sequels are a completely different story...

Toe Jam & Earl...YES. I cannot believe I forgot TJ&E. Shame on Cam.

Good call on Pac-man 2.

I thought the first two Shinobi games were average at best. Ninja Gaiden is clearly superior.

B.O.B is a pretty good platformer, although the SNES version is superior, IMO.

I do like Road Rash, and normally I hate racing games.

The other games I either haven't played, haven't heard of, or the SNES version is superior. Oh, and where the flaming flip is Streets of Rage III?!


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2009 11:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ba'al wrote:
Flying Battery Act 2 for the win.

Slayer1 wrote:
Zero Wing? Are you serious? Aside from AYBABTU that game was like every other side scroller ever made...

That's the only reason it made it.....otherwise Sol-Deace is the only real outstanding space shmup....


DING DING DING *Thunder Force 3 and 4/Lightning Force* DING DING DING

Also, Art of Fighting is very good, provided you've played the Arcade or SNES versions. Genesis version was raped and misses a hell of a lot of features.

Also, best Sonic music ever imo = Sonic 3's final boss and Scrap Brain Zone in the original.


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PostPosted: Apr 27 2009 01:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ky-Guy wrote:
Neutral-bob wrote:
I loved the Hydrocity theme, however my favorite had to be the Chemical Plant level.




Actually. . . I can't argue with that. That is the best theme out of any Sonic game.


What about the Metropolis theme? I'd post it myself if I had any idea how.
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PostPosted: Apr 27 2009 08:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Quote:
Also, best Sonic music ever imo = Sonic 3's final boss and Scrap Brain Zone in the original.


Thank you. Yes. Sonic 3/S&K's final boss music is just fucking awesome (not Doomsday Zone music, the actual boss music).
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PostPosted: Apr 27 2009 08:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

Best Sonic music ever is E.G.G.M.A.N.
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PostPosted: Apr 27 2009 07:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone ever play The Haunting Starring Polterguy? That game was SMOKIN'.

Also, Sega CD gets a free pass on sucking only because you could play Monkey Island on it.
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PostPosted: Apr 27 2009 08:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well see how bad the Sega systems were up to the CD in my ultimate Let's Slay, due out next Fall Very Happy
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PostPosted: Apr 27 2009 08:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Milhouse wrote:
Anyone ever play The Haunting Starring Polterguy? That game was SMOKIN'

Oh yeah. Great game. Nothing beats playing a ghost and scaring the shit out of people.

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I had and loved both systems, but some of my fondest memories are of sitting in my beanbag chair and playing Road Rash, Streets of Rage 2, Splatterhouse, Greatest Heavyweights and NHL 94 on my Genesis.

I think really it just comes down to which games were your favorites. For me, most of those were Genesis games.


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PostPosted: Apr 28 2009 01:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

jprime wrote:
Ky-Guy wrote:
Neutral-bob wrote:
I loved the Hydrocity theme, however my favorite had to be the Chemical Plant level.




Actually. . . I can't argue with that. That is the best theme out of any Sonic game.


What about the Metropolis theme? I'd post it myself if I had any idea how.




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