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GPFontaine
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Fighter_McWarrior
Title: Gun of Brixton
Joined: Jun 05 2011
Location: Down by the River
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See you in the Supreme Court, Jan
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Yo te querda oh ma corazón
Oh ma corazón, oh ma corazón" - The Clash, Spanish Bombs |
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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i read that several days ago. arizona just seems to be getting more & more retarded by the day.
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
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Guys, it means "offend or annoy" in a legal sense. Not in a conventional sense. I've seen the text, it just extends a law that applies to phone calls to the internet.
Think internet harassment, or cyberbullying. Not just being an asshole online.
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bassguy252
Title: Professional Malcontent
Joined: May 26 2010
Location: Mount Dhoom!!!!!!!
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well that should appease the assholes then
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Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
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Sarge
Title: The Self-Titler
Joined: Aug 14 2010
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Guys, it means "offend or annoy" in a legal sense. Not in a conventional sense. I've seen the text, it just extends a law that applies to phone calls to the internet.
Think internet harassment, or cyberbullying. Not just being an asshole online. |
Sure, but the language in the bill leaves it open to interpetation. Sort of a SOPA deal. It's clear that it isn't MEANT to shut down things like comment sections, but the possibility is there.
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Fighter_McWarrior
Title: Gun of Brixton
Joined: Jun 05 2011
Location: Down by the River
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Nobody's going to shut down comment sections. Good grief, people 
Of course it's not that the internet has ever overreacted about something essentially nonthreatening before...
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Oh ma corazón, oh ma corazón" - The Clash, Spanish Bombs |
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
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| Sarge wrote: |
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Guys, it means "offend or annoy" in a legal sense. Not in a conventional sense. I've seen the text, it just extends a law that applies to phone calls to the internet.
Think internet harassment, or cyberbullying. Not just being an asshole online. |
Sure, but the language in the bill leaves it open to interpetation. Sort of a SOPA deal. It's clear that it isn't MEANT to shut down things like comment sections, but the possibility is there. |
No, it is not open to interpretation, at least not by people who matter. People who work with the law know what the law means. And again, this is a law that has been in place for a while and is probably on the books in every state being updated for modern times. When was the last time you got arrested for calling someone a dickhead online, or "annoying" them by calling when they were asleep?
It's a non-issue that some smart guy looked at and decided to spread around out of context.
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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| Sarge wrote: |
| UsaSatsui wrote: |
Guys, it means "offend or annoy" in a legal sense. Not in a conventional sense. I've seen the text, it just extends a law that applies to phone calls to the internet.
Think internet harassment, or cyberbullying. Not just being an asshole online. |
Sure, but the language in the bill leaves it open to interpetation. Sort of a SOPA deal. It's clear that it isn't MEANT to shut down things like comment sections, but the possibility is there. |
No, it is not open to interpretation, at least not by people who matter. People who work with the law know what the law means. And again, this is a law that has been in place for a while and is probably on the books in every state being updated for modern times. When was the last time you got arrested for calling someone a dickhead online, or "annoying" them by calling when they were asleep?
It's a non-issue that some smart guy looked at and decided to spread around out of context. |
Phone calls and verbal communications are not legally allowed to be recorded without consent. Online posts are. They are "in writing" which makes them easier to prove in court. Also, even if you try to erase what you write online, the internet archive and other caching services makes it harder than ever to actually make that happen.
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Fighter_McWarrior
Title: Gun of Brixton
Joined: Jun 05 2011
Location: Down by the River
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And written communications have always been more tightly regulated than non-verbal ones.
So...not seeing the issue here.
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"Spanish bombs, yot' quierro y finito
Yo te querda oh ma corazón
Oh ma corazón, oh ma corazón" - The Clash, Spanish Bombs |
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
Location: Hiding
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| Phone calls and verbal communications are not legally allowed to be recorded without consent. Online posts are. They are "in writing" which makes them easier to prove in court. Also, even if you try to erase what you write online, the internet archive and other caching services makes it harder than ever to actually make that happen. |
I fail to see your point - if a non-crime is or isn't recorded, who cares?
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GPFontaine
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Location: Connecticut
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| Phone calls and verbal communications are not legally allowed to be recorded without consent. Online posts are. They are "in writing" which makes them easier to prove in court. Also, even if you try to erase what you write online, the internet archive and other caching services makes it harder than ever to actually make that happen. |
I fail to see your point - if a non-crime is or isn't recorded, who cares? |
What if they didn't prosecute because the crimes could never be proven with evidence and now they can?
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
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| Phone calls and verbal communications are not legally allowed to be recorded without consent. Online posts are. They are "in writing" which makes them easier to prove in court. Also, even if you try to erase what you write online, the internet archive and other caching services makes it harder than ever to actually make that happen. |
I fail to see your point - if a non-crime is or isn't recorded, who cares? |
What if they didn't prosecute because the crimes could never be proven with evidence and now they can? |
What if, what if, what if...it doesn't matter. Who cares? What does that have to do with the law at all?
It is not illegal to swear at someone over the telephone. What is illegal is to make constant, obscene, harassing phone calls. That is the behavior that is being made illegal online. And if it's easier to catch someone doing that online, great.
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Fighter_McWarrior
Title: Gun of Brixton
Joined: Jun 05 2011
Location: Down by the River
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You can't charge someone criminally for annoying you, GPF. There are a ton of Supreme Court cases that decided that a long time ago.
I swear, anyone wants to do anything about the internet, or even extend pre-existing laws to the internet, and everyone loses their shit. It's ridiculous.
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Yo te querda oh ma corazón
Oh ma corazón, oh ma corazón" - The Clash, Spanish Bombs |
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
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you guys forget that arizona is retarded
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Ice2SeeYou
Title: Sexual Tyrannosaurus
Joined: Sep 28 2008
Location: South of Heaven
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u guys r fags
Come at me Arizona.
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