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Goodbye Classic Controller?


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Smurfsrdead
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PostPosted: Aug 21 2008 01:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Remote#Classic_Controller

Yeah I know I'm referencing a wikipedia article, but oh well...

While "Nintendo has exercised the right to continue selling the Classic Controller pending a verdict at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit," I found that most of my local gamestores have pretty much stopped selling the classic controller. They have some left overs, but it seems like they will not be getting any new shipments.

I think most VC users have at least 1 or 2 classic controllers anyway, but still, it would be nice if Nintendo settles something with Anascape out of court, like Sony and Microsoft did. Ah well, at least the gamecube controller works fine.
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docinsano
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PostPosted: Aug 21 2008 02:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So what's the deal with this? Lawsuit, what?
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PostPosted: Aug 21 2008 02:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

docinsano wrote:
So what's the deal with this? Lawsuit, what?


what he said.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Aug 21 2008 05:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, looks like Nintendo lost a lawsuit against some other company that claims the classic controller violated their patent. So here comes some cash for them.

Does the classic controller sell well? If it does, they'll probably cut a deal and keep selling it. Otherwise, I think they won't bother. Gamecube controllers work just as well, don't they?
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Ky-Guy
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 12:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

Suing people for bullshit reasons has become quite a popular trend these days. . . . Confused


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ky-Guy wrote:
Suing people for bullshit reasons has become quite a popular trend these days. . . . Confused


Make something and have it stolen. Then see how "bullshit" your lawsuit is.
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M3GA MAN
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ya people are suing for bullshit reasons, I'll give an example. Man knocks down your coffee onto your crotch and it burns you. Next month that man is in court for a bull shit reason.
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docinsano
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

Old news, dude. You cant just sue for any old reason either, and chances are you won't get rich. Besides, most court cases are settled out of court from the sounds of things.
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

you'd think nintendo would jsut design a new controller.


also, some VC games don't work with the GCN controller and require hte classic one I thought.


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docinsano
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 03:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Apparently this Anascape place is suing Microsoft too: http://wii.qj.net/Anascape-Ltd-Drags-Nintendo-and-Microsoft-to-Court/pg/49/aid/60736
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 03:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

so if I'm understanding any of this tech shit it's pretty much "if you made a vidcon controller, we're coming for you?"


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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 12:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

docinsano wrote:
Apparently this Anascape place is suing Microsoft too: http://wii.qj.net/Anascape-Ltd-Drags-Nintendo-and-Microsoft-to-Court/pg/49/aid/60736

I don't understand a damn fucking thing I read on that page.

Look, all I know is that the Classic Controller is more or less a SNES controller, so much so that Nintendo released a Classic Controller that looks exactly like the fucking Japanese SNES controller. So I'm calling bullshit on Anascape.
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 01:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
docinsano wrote:
Apparently this Anascape place is suing Microsoft too: http://wii.qj.net/Anascape-Ltd-Drags-Nintendo-and-Microsoft-to-Court/pg/49/aid/60736

I don't understand a damn fucking thing I read on that page.

Look, all I know is that the Classic Controller is more or less a SNES controller, so much so that Nintendo released a Classic Controller that looks exactly like the fucking Japanese SNES controller. So I'm calling bullshit on Anascape.


Yea, that's Nintendo's design, I don't know where they get off thinking its their controller.


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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 01:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
Gamecube controllers work just as well, don't they?


Sometimes, but not always. Some games seem to have stupid controls on a GCN controller like Donkey Kong Country and Super Mario World. They did that on purpose to make people buy Classic Controllers I believe, but customizing the controls should be something they should implement at some point.
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow.....what a pathetic situation. Really, why would they sue over a controller that's clearly a lot like the SNES controller? Patent infringement my ass. If they really don't like it that much, why not just make a controller that's better and try to make deals with that?


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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What has this company even done? I Google them and all I get is information about their Nintendo/Microsoft lawsuits.
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docinsano
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

From what I understood, the parts inside (switches and stuff like that) were violating the patent, not the design itself. Then again, I didn't read very closely and those legal documents are brain fucks.
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Ky-Guy
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 02:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
Ky-Guy wrote:
Suing people for bullshit reasons has become quite a popular trend these days. . . . Confused


Make something and have it stolen. Then see how "bullshit" your lawsuit is.


How is it not bullshit? This is another Patent Troll case. Seriously, how come I never hear of these companies, so to speak, until they start suing people for "stealing" their ideas? I think the Immersion Corporation started this trend when it sued Sony and Microsoft for patent infringement. If I were to make my own patent, I would first go to a patent office and then start soliciting the idea to bigger companies.

Besides, how in the hell is it not Nintendo's own design? As Syd said, the damn thing is pretty much an SNES controller with thumbsticks and a few extra buttons.


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docinsano
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 04:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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How is it not bullshit? This is another Patent Troll case. Seriously, how come I never hear of these companies, so to speak, until they start suing people for "stealing" their ideas? I think the Immersion Corporation started this trend when it sued Sony and Microsoft for patent infringement. If I were to make my own patent, I would first go to a patent office and then start soliciting the idea to bigger companies.

Besides, how in the hell is it not Nintendo's own design? As Syd said, the damn thing is pretty much an SNES controller with thumbsticks and a few extra buttons.


My theory is that this BS company has the patent on something really stupid like the rubber or plastic or whatever the thumbsticks are made of. There's no way they hold the patent for the external design, but the internals, now maybe. But I still say BS. And yes, this does sound like a Patent Troll. Sounds like they just bought out some company that held some patents and decided to give themselves a name and sue some other companies. Fuck them. Hard.
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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 11:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If they get rid of that, I will then have absolutely no reason, want or any will to buy the Wii. Its a fucking gimmick system. Dont go off on me about this, im just drunk. But fo real i dont like the Wii very much.


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PostPosted: Aug 22 2008 11:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

docinsano wrote:
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How is it not bullshit? This is another Patent Troll case. Seriously, how come I never hear of these companies, so to speak, until they start suing people for "stealing" their ideas? I think the Immersion Corporation started this trend when it sued Sony and Microsoft for patent infringement. If I were to make my own patent, I would first go to a patent office and then start soliciting the idea to bigger companies.

Besides, how in the hell is it not Nintendo's own design? As Syd said, the damn thing is pretty much an SNES controller with thumbsticks and a few extra buttons.


My theory is that this BS company has the patent on something really stupid like the rubber or plastic or whatever the thumbsticks are made of. There's no way they hold the patent for the external design, but the internals, now maybe. But I still say BS. And yes, this does sound like a Patent Troll. Sounds like they just bought out some company that held some patents and decided to give themselves a name and sue some other companies. Fuck them. Hard.
Yeah, that is a good point. But then again, I'm still saying "BS" with you. Let's fuck them hard. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Aug 23 2008 12:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

its the technology behind the vibration on the controllers. thats what they are suing for. they had the patent behind the tech (the spinning weights on the ps2 controllers and whatever they used on the GCN classic controllers)

thats what they are trying to get royalties for.

so it'll be a while before they settle out of court or until they design new tech.


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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 24 2008 12:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

But what about the Rumble Pak? Isn't that the original force feedback doohickey?


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PostPosted: Aug 24 2008 01:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, but it was a different type of tech. it didnt use the same model that the controllers use cause it was an add-on.


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docinsano
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PostPosted: Aug 24 2008 01:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Guess I better invent a new controller with a superior rumble feedback feature.
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