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Science plans to create dimensional portal in October


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 06:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

From INQ:

PARTICLE PHYSICS researchers will be partying on October 21st after the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world's largest and most powerful particle accelerator, is inaugurated near Geneva, Switzerland. Alexander Vodopyanov, a scientist working at Russia's Joint Institute for Nuclear Research, let the LHC's unveiling date slip to RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

Hadrons are the class of relatively massive subatomic particles that includes protons and neutrons, which comprise the nuclei of atoms and are ringed by layered clouds of spinning electrons, which belong to the Lepton class of subatomic particles. [Pay attention at the back there. We may have a test] Other classes of more exotic subatomic particles are Quarks and Bosons. Physics is still learning how they work.

The huge device will boost streams of protons circling in opposite directions up to extremely high energies and smash them together to test the validity of current particle physics theories.

The LHC is called Large because it's the biggest particle accelerator so far constructed, a subterranean tunnel 27 kilometres in diameter that's buried about 100 meters underneath an area straddling the French-Swiss border.

"The collider is to be inaugurated on October 21," said the academician Vodopyanov. "This means at least one test-run of proton beams around the accelerator ring will be conducted prior to inauguration."

He said all eight sections of the collider's large ring have been cooled to temperatures near absolute zero and that a proton beam could be test-fired through one of the sectors as early as this week.

Once the collider gets up and running it will continually generate terabytes of data transmitted to physics research institutions throughout the world for subsequent analysis, pushing the capabilities of state-of-the-art networks and high performance computing (HPC) facilities.

The giant technodonut is a $5.8 billion international project run by CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research. It involves more than 2,000 physics researchers working at hundreds of universities and laboratories in 34 countries.

Particle physicists hope the collider will produce evidence for the existence of the so-called Higgs boson. Observing the Higgs boson could confirm predictions and resolve a number of still unanswered questions about the Standard Model of physics and might help explain how other subatomic particles acquire properties such as mass.

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This got me thinking. The last time someone fired off a particle accellerator, this happened:

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Tyop
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 06:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My sister actually built a small part for the LHC during an internship. If anything goes wrong I'll blame her.



 
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Ross Rifle
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 09:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, I will too...unless she's hot.


I'm sorry, that was uncalled for Tyop. Holy fuck. I'm really sorry. Wow.


But anyway, I could only understand about 13 words in that entire article...what kind of dimension will this open up? A bizarro world? Or a dimension of evil twins?


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Gantrithor
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 10:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Let's just hope it doesn't open a dimension full of Zergling-like beings, that'd be one hell of a Zerg Rush.
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 10:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i read about this in SciAm several months ago and it was pretty cool. its gonna study dark matter or some BS like that. and gluons and jibba jabba. i couldnt wrap my head around most of it since i was reading it at work


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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 10:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

and yet still no flying car


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Gantrithor
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 11:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Government's holding back the water-powered floating cars I tell you.
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PostPosted: Aug 06 2008 11:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 07 2008 12:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Lets just hope Gordon Freeman is on the scene.


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PostPosted: Aug 07 2008 11:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

They most definately borrowed some blue prints from Spengler. Look out ghosts.


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PostPosted: Aug 07 2008 01:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why do they gotta be accelerating particles? Why can't they slow them down? Damn people and their need for speed.
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Tyop
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2008 04:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

Group Protests Treatment of Hadrons at CERN:

People for the Ethical Treatment of Hadrons (PETH) wrote:
There's a limited supply of hadrons in the universe. Do we just want to go around destroying them? What if we run out? What if the hadrons can feel pain? Will we look back at this hundreds of years from now and regret it? Kinda like we do with the killing of bacteria with antibiotics now.

Won't somebody please think of the hadrons?



 
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Mitch
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2008 02:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

man, killing hardons is something that's been going on since the first ever hardon. Oh wait, you said hadrons....
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2008 02:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ummmm Russia just bombed Georgia you guys. Confused
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2008 04:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

We can take the Ruskies. Odd that they seem to be backsliding, though.


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PostPosted: Aug 08 2008 06:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Yahoo link is misleading, it made me think they bombed our Georgia so I clicked on it. Mad



 
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PostPosted: Aug 16 2008 03:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

this article relates to the LHC so i figured i would link it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7563683.stm


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PostPosted: Aug 16 2008 06:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think the funniest thing about this is the "saftey concerns" raised by some physicists about some of the possible side effects of LHC.

From the Wiki:

1. Low-speed micro black holes

A major concern amongst CERN opponents is that any micro black holes created may have a very low velocity and so, unlike any created by natural cosmic ray collisions, they will not escape the Earth's gravitational pull:

Perhaps cosmic-ray collisions really are creating tiny black holes or strangelets, but those little bits of doomsday zip by too fast to cause any trouble. In the LHC, they say, the bad stuff could hang around long enough to be captured by Earth’s gravity and set off a catastrophe.[1]

These concerns are addressed by the CERN's LSAG safety report summary as follows:

Stable black holes could be either electrically charged or neutral. [...] If stable microscopic black holes had no electric charge, their interactions with the Earth would be very weak. Those produced by cosmic rays would pass harmlessly through the Earth into space, whereas those produced by the LHC could remain on Earth. However, there are much larger and denser astronomical bodies than the Earth in the Universe. Black holes produced in cosmic-ray collisions with bodies such as neutron stars and white dwarf stars would be brought to rest. The continued existence of such dense bodies, as well as the Earth, rules out the possibility of the LHC producing any dangerous black holes.[5]

In summary, the concern is that micro black holes, if they are created and do not immediately decay, may remain within the Earth and begin accreting matter in the planet (CERN accepts this reasoning). CERN's response to this fear is that, if this was a problem, the high speed micro black holes created in nature would already have caused noticeable damage to bodies too dense for them to pass through, such as neutron stars and white dwarfs.

2. Strangelets

If the strange matter hypothesis is correct and a strangelet comes in contact with a lump of ordinary matter such as Earth, it could convert the ordinary matter to strange matter. This "ice-nine" disaster scenario is as follows: one strangelet hits a nucleus, catalyzing its immediate conversion to strange matter. This liberates energy, producing a larger, more stable strangelet, which in turn hits another nucleus, catalyzing its conversion to strange matter. In the end, all the nuclei of all the atoms of Earth are converted, and Earth is reduced to a hot, large lump of strange matter.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Sep 10 2008 09:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Did the world end when they fired up the LHC today for the first time?

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http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/
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PostPosted: Sep 10 2008 10:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't have the link anymore, but my girlfriend showed me a list of 10 times in history when the earth did not end, which is bullshit because I fail to end existence on a daily basis, but I don't make the news for it.


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PostPosted: Sep 10 2008 10:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

All they did was spin an atom around, they didn't do anything drastic.


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PostPosted: Sep 10 2008 11:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Psh, scientists can't even make a simple doomsday machine. I was ready for obliteration.


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