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So here I am, roughly 20 hours into Final Fantasy III. I have 9 characters in my inventory (pretty much everyone important except Locke and Shadow), everyone's in their 30's, levelwise. I basically have a few more things to do and then I can go to Kefka's Tower, and it's all over. And yet I can't help but feel that something's missing...

Now hear me out. While I have played numerous SNES games, I grew up on the Playstation. Final Fantasy 7-9 were among the most integral games of my childhood, and I own practically every essential N64 game. I am no stranger to RPG's, even older ones, and I have gotten all the way through Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and Lunar with nothing but joy. So why do I feel like giving up this far into FFIII?

Every time I play an RPG, although I enjoy it, I can't help but imagine some asshole insulting me for playing it and asking what the hell is so fun about just standing around taking turns hitting each other. While I disagree with this assertion, I cannot help but see where it's coming from. To an extent, it IS kind of boring at times, with leveling up and item acquisition the only real incentive. That said, I think the 'run into enemies when you want to' system works dramatically better than the random battle system.

But back to the topic. Why do I feel like giving up? Because these random battles are just...SO...FUCKING...TEDIOUS...If I could just simply stick with leveling up my core group of characters then the progress would be much faster and I could tolerate finishing up. But when there are so many characters and it largely requires you to solidly level up a number of them outside of your four favorite, well it just takes...so..damn...long. And there are just so many battles, so frequently. I feel like I'm being punished for trying to explore each area and possibly taking a wrong path. Is this really fun?

Now, in all seriousness, I mean no disrespect. I am well aware of FFIII's status and can totally see how great it was back in its day. In fact, I'd say that I had just as good a time playing most of it as I did 7-9. Yet, when it gets to the World of Ruin, my interest just starts to slag...

So any thoughts on this? Can any of you hardcore SNES gamers sympathize at all with my plight? Any advice I could get for manning up and completing the game? I really desperately want to get to the final showdown and defeat Kefka, but I just don't know if I can slog through hours more of training and dungeons.

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how did you put characters in your inventory?

Posted: Jun 05 2008 07:01 pm

JEW wrote:

how did you put characters in your inventory?

What? You don't know the secret code?

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my game genie broke. a turtle and a puffball fought inside of it.

Posted: Jun 05 2008 07:05 pm

JEW wrote:

my game genie broke. a turtle and a puffball fought inside of it.

That happened to me before. Its inoperable. You'll have to get a new one.

Posted: Jun 05 2008 07:07 pm

Dinosaur Forest for a couple hours, switch characters out and equip them with the exp egg, it's tedious but it seems to be the fastest way.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Agree on Dino Forest, it's about the challenge you'll have at some points. I went nuts and made Gau my spell caster, giving him an Esper that would increase his Magic Power on a level up. Yeah, I was crazy Razz

I just wanted to know what spell he was casting instead of using his Rages....

Anyway, there's a Moogle Charm and something else that will reduce random encounters then give absolutely none at all. I think you get it at the Coliseum.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jun 05 2008 08:20 pm

Get Locke, and Shadow if you didn't screw up. They're important. And there's 3 more people to get on top of that. Since you didn't mention missing anyone else from the World of Balance, I'm guessing you're missing Mog, Umaro, and Gogo.

You should absolutely get Mog, he's in Narshe. When you get him, search in the wall behind where he was for the Moogle Charm. Equip it, and your random battle problems are gone. The Charm makes the more annoying parts of the end game much easier (like the Magic Tower). Gogo is a mimic, and very strong as well. Find him on a triangle-shaped island in the corner of the map, you'll face a monster that eats you. Let him eat your party, you'll be in a cave where you find Gogo. Umaro is skippable, but he's in the Narshe mountains...go up to where the Esper is, fight it, then go over the cliff. Work your way through the area, and you'll find him. You need Mog.

I never felt the need to level up in this game, really. Pick a group of 4 to do one sidequest, then pick another to do the next one, and so on. By the time you're done with everything, you're probably ready for the tower...it won't be easy, but you can do it. The third group you only need to be strong enough to beat a boss or two, put Mog in it and you'll have no random battles. There's plenty of places to level up if you feel the need, though...I like the Phoenix Cave myself...people like the dinosaur forest, but it's irritating to me to have to save after every battle in case you get ambushed and die.

And to be honest...yeah, I always thought FF6 lost a lot of punch after the end of the WoB. WoR is just to depressing for me.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Gogo is awesome. Tailor made for your needs. He's the only one that can actually physically attack in Fanatic's Tower too. I think he needs the Offering and Blackbelt... and I think ONLY the Fight command in his 2nd slot. One hit and he goes nuts and attacks everything.

Posted: Jun 05 2008 09:31 pm

WoR is supposed to be bleak and depressing.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Valdronius wrote:

WoR is supposed to be bleak and depressing.

*ROFL* Caught onto that too huh?

I really liked FF3. Mixing up the Relics is a lot of fun. I think the fun of the game is not beating it, but goofing off once you have.

Posted: Jun 05 2008 10:54 pm

Ghandi wrote:

Valdronius wrote:

WoR is supposed to be bleak and depressing.

*ROFL* Caught onto that too huh?

I really liked FF3. Mixing up the Relics is a lot of fun. I think the fun of the game is not beating it, but goofing off once you have.

I usually goof off on my games when I beat them, or is it jerk off...one of those two.

Posted: Jun 05 2008 10:56 pm

This game was a large chunk of my childhood, and a milestone for me... it was the first RPG I beat entirely on my own, without playing with my dad. It was a beautiful moment.

Posted: Jun 05 2008 11:34 pm

I still have yet to play that game. Working through Shadowrun first.

Yeah, I can understand how those random battles can get tedious. Sure, I haven't played FF3, but I have played Golden Sun 2, and just having to level everyone up gets tough and annoying. Still, RPGs are, in my opinion, the 2nd highest in patience requirements(certain puzzlers are at the pinnacle). You just have to learn how to stick with it to the end.

Real-time battle RPGs can be lots of fun. Even if you're working on FF3, they can be good for a break, a change of pace. Sure, it's still leveling, but it's fun to really have that much involvement in the game. Try games like Ninja Boy and Secret of Mana.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jun 06 2008 12:32 am

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WoR is supposed to be bleak and depressing.

But is it supposed to be boring?

Posted: Jun 06 2008 01:28 am

UsaSatsui wrote:

But is it supposed to be boring?

Depends on what you define boring as. I find Gran Turismo to be boring.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jun 06 2008 09:09 am

...well, let's define boring here as "the game does very little to keep my interest level up".

From the part where Celes takes her "leap of faith" (damn censors) up until Kefka's speech at the end, the story completely falls apart. The game dissolves into a bunch of sidequests so you can recover your party, and with one exception (Terra), none of them are that interesting.

Up until that point, the game is great. But I'm very much into story-driven games, and the WoR in FF6 just doesn't do it for me.

Posted: Jun 06 2008 10:04 am

Why do I seem to be the only one who knows how to keep Celes from trying to commit suicide? :/ Everyone and their mom talks about Celes flinging herself off the cliff so I have to imagine they don't know how to keep Celes from doing that...

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Rico Belafonte wrote:

So here I am, roughly 20 hours into Final Fantasy III. I have 9 characters in my inventory (pretty much everyone important except Locke and Shadow), everyone's in their 30's, levelwise. I basically have a few more things to do and then I can go to Kefka's Tower, and it's all over. And yet I can't help but feel that something's missing...

Now hear me out. While I have played numerous SNES games, I grew up on the Playstation. Final Fantasy 7-9 were among the most integral games of my childhood, and I own practically every essential N64 game. I am no stranger to RPG's, even older ones, and I have gotten all the way through Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, and Lunar with nothing but joy. So why do I feel like giving up this far into FFIII?

Every time I play an RPG, although I enjoy it, I can't help but imagine some asshole insulting me for playing it and asking what the hell is so fun about just standing around taking turns hitting each other. While I disagree with this assertion, I cannot help but see where it's coming from. To an extent, it IS kind of boring at times, with leveling up and item acquisition the only real incentive. That said, I think the 'run into enemies when you want to' system works dramatically better than the random battle system.

But back to the topic. Why do I feel like giving up? Because these random battles are just...SO...FUCKING...TEDIOUS...If I could just simply stick with leveling up my core group of characters then the progress would be much faster and I could tolerate finishing up. But when there are so many characters and it largely requires you to solidly level up a number of them outside of your four favorite, well it just takes...so..damn...long. And there are just so many battles, so frequently. I feel like I'm being punished for trying to explore each area and possibly taking a wrong path. Is this really fun?

Now, in all seriousness, I mean no disrespect. I am well aware of FFIII's status and can totally see how great it was back in its day. In fact, I'd say that I had just as good a time playing most of it as I did 7-9. Yet, when it gets to the World of Ruin, my interest just starts to slag...

So any thoughts on this? Can any of you hardcore SNES gamers sympathize at all with my plight? Any advice I could get for manning up and completing the game? I really desperately want to get to the final showdown and defeat Kefka, but I just don't know if I can slog through hours more of training and dungeons.

I am a huge fan of FFIV over FFVI because of the story movement.

But you have missed a huge part of this game. Go finish it and then come back and we can talk. You should consider the point of your mission is not to collect stuff, it is to kill Kefka.

If you don't hate him enough to want to kill him then you blew through the game and didn't pay attention. He is a fucking ass hole who really needs to be put down.

Kefka!

Posted: Jun 06 2008 10:29 am

GPFontaine wrote:

If you don't hate him enough to want to kill him then you blew through the game and didn't pay attention. He is a fucking ass hole who really needs to be put down.

Kefka!

YES. The story is such a huge part of the game, if you just blow through it and don't pay attention, you're doing yourself a disservice.

And dude, OP, think about it for a second. You said you loved FF7, right? And as great and badass as Sephiroth is, he didn't accomplish even half of what Kefka did. As many countdown lists of "the greatest video game villians ever" point out, while Sephiroth wanted to end the world, Kefka actually did it. He offed his superior, destroyed the entire world, and left a few villages struggling for survival while he rules as a god over them all. Did Sephiroth get that close? No, no he did not.

As GPFontaine said, he needs to be put down. If you don't feel any burning desire to silence that maniacal laugh, then you definitely missed the point of the story.

Kefka!

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jun 06 2008 04:34 pm

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Why do I seem to be the only one who knows how to keep Celes from trying to commit suicide?

I know, but it involves saving Cid, and if I get a choice, there's no way I'm saving that raincoat-wearing idiot.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

aika wrote:

Why do I seem to be the only one who knows how to keep Celes from trying to commit suicide? :/ Everyone and their mom talks about Celes flinging herself off the cliff so I have to imagine they don't know how to keep Celes from doing that...

Obviously the English chance is why I don't remember this. I'm still playing through it(again) and have yet to reach that part. Why does she want to commit suicide?

Posted: Jun 06 2008 08:10 pm

Ghandi wrote:

aika wrote:

Why do I seem to be the only one who knows how to keep Celes from trying to commit suicide? :/ Everyone and their mom talks about Celes flinging herself off the cliff so I have to imagine they don't know how to keep Celes from doing that...

Obviously the English chance is why I don't remember this. I'm still playing through it(again) and have yet to reach that part. Why does she want to commit suicide?

because she's an attention whore. so, any type of attention, even negative attention, is good in her book Twisted Evil

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

username wrote:

Ghandi wrote:

aika wrote:

Why do I seem to be the only one who knows how to keep Celes from trying to commit suicide? :/ Everyone and their mom talks about Celes flinging herself off the cliff so I have to imagine they don't know how to keep Celes from doing that...

Obviously the English chance is why I don't remember this. I'm still playing through it(again) and have yet to reach that part. Why does she want to commit suicide?

because she's an attention whore. so, any type of attention, even negative attention, is good in her book Twisted Evil

She's crazy.

This doesn't have anything to do with when she got attacked by those guards when you first meet her huh?

Posted: Jun 06 2008 08:18 pm

Ghandi wrote:

username wrote:

Ghandi wrote:

aika wrote:

Why do I seem to be the only one who knows how to keep Celes from trying to commit suicide? :/ Everyone and their mom talks about Celes flinging herself off the cliff so I have to imagine they don't know how to keep Celes from doing that...

Obviously the English chance is why I don't remember this. I'm still playing through it(again) and have yet to reach that part. Why does she want to commit suicide?

because she's an attention whore. so, any type of attention, even negative attention, is good in her book Twisted Evil

She's crazy.

This doesn't have anything to do with when she got attacked by those guards when you first meet her huh?

Nope. It's at the beginning of the World of Ruin.