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Posted: May 18 2008 08:13 pm

When I was young and stupid and played Ocarina of Time for the first time, I pronounced almost everything weirdly. Ocarina became "Ahkreena", Kokiri became "Koroaree", and I don't even remember how I butchered Kakariko. I think I said "Kah-kah-ra-ko" but I paused between each syllable so it was like three words.

Posted: May 19 2008 04:54 am

Bluey wrote:

When I was young and stupid and played Ocarina of Time for the first time, I pronounced almost everything weirdly. Ocarina became "Ahkreena", Kokiri became "Koroaree", and I don't even remember how I butchered Kakariko. I think I said "Kah-kah-ra-ko" but I paused between each syllable so it was like three words.

That's nothing. When I got my NES as a kid, I didn't know any English. I had to grasp lots of words from context or use a dictionary when playing dialog heavy games. Of course I couldn't read the phonetic transcriptions, so I usually ended up pronouncing everything wrong. Since nobody was around to correct me, I prided myself in figuring all this out myself. Years later, when I finally got English lessons in school, I still had all those wrong pronounciations engraved in my brain. Man, did I feel like an idiot then.

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Just depends if you put the

"Oc" together or if you pronounce it O "carina"

So it's Oc "arina" or O "carina"

just depends where you make the break.

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Off topic, but all this talk about the TMNT games made me realize something.

The guy who played Casey Jones in the TMNT movie is the same guy who played the former priest/cop in the Christopher Walken movie "The Prophecy," Elias Koteas.

Good flick, if you haven't seen.

Posted: May 21 2008 07:13 pm

I played Ocarina a lot and like 5 years after it came out some one pointed out to me that her name is Saria not Sara.

I call Ocarina an "orcarina" I don't know why but I always threw an extra 'r' in there
Kokiri was like "cokery"
Kakariko was "kakarot" (Goku's real name in DBZ I use to watch a lot of that)
Deku was like "deck eww"

Posted: May 21 2008 09:54 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

As a video game, Batman is great. I love all of Sunsoft's NES stuff. Yes, even the oft-maligned Fester's Quest. But those of you who didn't own a NES in 1989 can't possibly fathom how disappointing it was at the time. This was a game based off the biggest movie of the year, the movie that every little boy could recite line for line. And so for a game to come out based on that movie where you fought robots and flying men, it was more than a little bit disappointing. The Joker really should have been the boss of every level, and he should have pulled the Robotnik and gotten away each time until the final showdown in Gotham Cathedral. But again, the game is by no means bad; it's just not Tim Burton's Batman.

Sonic Heroes is great. I would second what Jew said about speed, but I would argue that Secret Rings understood this as well.

Wizards and Warriors is an ugly, mediocre game. But it's fun, the music is catchy, and everyone played it back in the day.

Shadow the Hedgehog is terrible. I don't think I've ever played a 3D platformer with so many bottomless pits.

And you all know my thoughts on TMNT. Maybe I'm just still bitter that I spent two hours trying to figure out how to use the fucking grappling hooks.

Well put, but I will say that I actually enjoyed Batman: Revenge of The Joker way back when, as it was the only game my Mom's friend had for NES (blah blah blah) and I was only 4. It is still a good game, and I enjoy it more than at least the regular version of the Sunsoft Batman for Genesis. Never played it for NES.

Only TMNT 2 and 3 were any good for NES. The Manhattan Project is a classic game. So is Hyperstone Heist and TMNT IV for SNES.

How about Vectorman? Oh, I know one, but I am sure that it was never overrated. Starflight. Its like one of those weird early PC RPG things that was kind of like Star Trek. Im at a loss for finding any games. Maybe GTA: San Andreas.

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Syd Lexia wrote:

Ocarina of Time.

So how exactly is it so overrated its underrated?

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crookshow wrote:

I'm going to say Diddy Kong Racing. Most people write it off as a mario kart clone or the "other kart game" for N64, but it actually holds it's own very well. Fully rendered 3d graphics, multiple unique vehicle types, story mode w/ overworld, well imagined courses with vehicle specific shortcuts and boss races were all done for the first time here. Most people complained that the hovercraft was too hard to control, but I actually loved using it, especially in those water levels. The only things that sucked about this game compared to MK64 was it was considerably slower (due to everything being in 3d) and the Rare characters were pretty lame overall. Since I no longer have my N64, I'm going to have to pick it up again if it ever comes out on the VC, or if I ever get a DS.

I had a friend who owned that game and for the life of him he could not beat Wizpig the first time.

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In some respect i think brawl was over-rated/over-hyped... it's features while good were not up to what i had hoped..;

Fluidity of the game went down, by making more downtime in-between certain attacks (making it harder to combo), adding in trips, and increasing defensivie ability, while lowering offensive ability.

Also the only options especially in FFA (free for all) are sub-par.. no rating system, no form of communicating online, that i know of.. (so you can't gather brawl codes of people you played adn thought were good or fun to play against) Also i have a fair amount of lag (it's noticeably), even though i have a decent internet connection...

Overall though it is a fun game, and have spent hours on it, and have enjoyed.. since we're on the topic, I have posted my brawl number, i'm a decent a player... don't think i'd lose that bad to anyone here, unless we got some all star player.. anyway here's my brawl code, i also edited it into the list we ahve giong on, i believe that's all you need is the other perons' brawl code, not sure what the wii-code woudl do.

Snow's Brawl Code: 1805-1876-7506

Also i posted this elswhere, but i added a few of you guys randomly.. see if i coudl catch ya on sometime to play.. can't remember, i think Syd was one, and lord was one... but ya be fun to play ya'll.

Posted: May 22 2008 05:08 pm

Twilight Princess was more" overrated that it was underrated" then Ocarina of Time I still play OoT more then I play TP and I think I've beaten TP more times then OoT I think TP is easier though I have said and typed it enough times...

I've beaten TP at least for times once on GCN and 3 on Wii in less then 6 months the bosses are to damn easy

I've beaten OoT only about 3 times through the whole game (usually someone else starts a file and I finish it) and that game has been out for 10yrs

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JRA wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Ocarina of Time.

So how exactly is it so overrated its underrated?

The question still stands. How?

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JRA wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Ocarina of Time.

So how exactly is it so overrated its underrated?

The question still stands. How?

It just is

Posted: Jun 03 2008 05:17 pm

Aarow.q wrote:

JRA wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Ocarina of Time.

So how exactly is it so overrated its underrated?

The question still stands. How?

It just is

Well played sir.
I haven't posted in this thread because I can;t wrap my mind around the point. How can something be so good that its underrated. I think Zelda is perfect the way it is, what's so overated about it. It went 3d and its a great game for its time and system. Now its underrated? I don't get it either JRA.

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If u say something is overrated or underrated that is just a matter of opinion. We can't really tell if something truly is overrated/underrated. And personally i liked zelda when it was 2-d, but the 3-d version is great too

Posted: Jun 03 2008 06:20 pm

The hype around a game can make it overrated if some game is suppose to be like the best you've ever played and you play it and it good but not great it makes an overrated game underrated.

All you need to know about Ocarina is here: http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4892
(and pretty much any other Zelda game)

Posted: Jun 03 2008 06:28 pm

I'll explain how Ocarina is so overrated, it's underrated. When Ocarina first came out, it was hailed as the greatest game ever and that was popular opinion for about two yeats straight. Then as its as the shiny new paint began to wear away, people began to criticize it. There was too much walking. The Water Temple and Lord Jabu-Jabu's belly were poorly designed. Epona was useless. It was dumb having hard to remember songs that transported you to each temple instead of having one easier song, like the way the flute worked in LTTP. Speaking of which, there is a very vocal subgroup of gamers who believe that LTTP was the last good console Zelda, and perhaps the last good Zelda ever.

So the overrated tag has definitely been placed on Ocarina. I would argue that the game is so overrated that it's underrated. Meaning that the game was originally a hit, but it has been re-judged harshly in some circles, so much so that much of its initial charm and the epic nature of the release have been forgotten.

Posted: Jun 03 2008 06:35 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

It was dumb having hard to remember songs that transported you to each temple instead of having one easier song, like the way the flute worked in LTTP. Speaking of which, there is a very vocal subgroup of gamers who believe that LTTP was the last good console Zelda, and perhaps the last good Zelda ever.

Well put.

Posted: Jun 03 2008 06:59 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I'll explain how Ocarina is so overrated, it's underrated. When Ocarina first came out, it was hailed as the greatest game ever and that was popular opinion for about two yeats straight. Then as its as the shiny new paint began to wear away, people began to criticize it. There was too much walking. The Water Temple and Lord Jabu-Jabu's belly were poorly designed. Epona was useless. It was dumb having hard to remember songs that transported you to each temple instead of having one easier song, like the way the flute worked in LTTP. Speaking of which, there is a very vocal subgroup of gamers who believe that LTTP was the last good console Zelda, and perhaps the last good Zelda ever.

So the overrated tag has definitely been placed on Ocarina. I would argue that the game is so overrated that it's underrated. Meaning that the game was originally a hit, but it has been re-judged harshly in some circles, so much so that much of its initial charm and the epic nature of the release have been forgotten.

So basically if a game was a hit when it came out and years later people bitch about it, it's underrated? That doesn't make much sense to me, personally. To me it sounds like the game was awesome then people realized it could have been better, not underrated. Maybe I'm just being Nit Picky.

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My interpetation of the phrase it's so overrated it's underated.. woudl be the fact it's overrated, creates insanely high expectations, that modern gamers today, and gamers of that time, who played it with that hype, don't get to appreciate how good it really is, because they keep comparing it to the hype they've heard. And they also are nitpicking every part of the game, because of it's label as best game ever or really great game.

Basically what i'm saying is a good game can be over hyped so that when people play it they actually seems worse than it is to them.

Posted: Jun 03 2008 11:03 pm

So overrated that it is underrated basically when you see a new game that is awsome that game will lose it's coolness with time, because fuck everything becomes opsolete over time. Take SSB it was a great game but we have Brawl now so who fucking cares about it? No one.

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Syd Lexia wrote:

there is a very vocal subgroup of gamers who believe that LTTP was the last good console Zelda, and perhaps the last good Zelda ever.

I always cut it off at Zelda 2 rather than 3, because all the quality in the world can't overcome the lack of any kind of challenge, so profound that to enjoy any Zelda game after 2 I've had to leave behind all boss hearts even my first time through. I don't know why they don't just offer some form of difficulty level selection, but every time I register a game at Club Nintendo I waste my time writing a big paragraph demanding it Smile

. I mean, it would take like half a day of development time to just half all damage taken...

But at least Majora's mask was a temporary haven from the hyper-easiness to a mild degree, and it remains my favorite Zelda of all. You can probably guess what my least favorite is (hint: the hardest to die in).

Posted: Jun 04 2008 05:59 am

Club Nintendo Sad

I'm jealous.

Posted: Jun 04 2008 06:29 am

I was a Club Nintendo member when I was a kid. I might still have my membership card lying around somewhere. I don't actually remember why I joined though. I know I got Nintendo Power (which was just called "Club Nintendo" here) for free, but other than that there weren't any advantages to it, at least back then.

Posted: Jun 04 2008 07:38 am

There are exclusive games and accessories that you can get through Club Nintendo. For example, there's a modified Wii Classic Controller that looks just like the Super Famicom controller.

And there is no Club Nintendo in America. Sad

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Syd Lexia wrote:

Club Nintendo Sad

I'm jealous.

Just blew all my points on the hanafuda cards.

If they ever make those available for general sale I will seriously start stabbing people.