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ReeperTheSeeker
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The pacing of the movie was much faster then i remember from seeing it in the theater. Does hollywood think that the masses have so much ADD, that if there is not shit going on every millisecond, that we will get board and walk away. Well they would be right, but hollywood is only succeeding in making the world's ADD even worse.
I mean watch a movie from the 1970s, like the French Connection, then compare it's pacing with Transformers. Huge difference, and the pacing is only going to get worse.
So what do you think, do movie of today movie at a much after pace and should they slow down so people can take some time to contemplate what the hell is going on?
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Blackout
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Personally I think the way Sesame street was cut back in the day is the single underlying cause for ADD.
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Title: owner of a lonely heart
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although the pacing is different nowadays, the sound is still way better than it used to be back in the day.
idk what im saying. woke up drunk and barely got to work on time
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DarkMaze
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I'd say it's less "Hollywood" and more just Michael Bay. He's ridiculous about ADD editing.
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Tyop
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| DarkMaze wrote: |
| I'd say it's less "Hollywood" and more just Michael Bay. He's ridiculous about ADD editing. |
Which is something I'll never be able to understand. If you spend millions of dollars on CGI, I would assume you'd have an interest in people actually being able to take a decent look at what you spend all that money for. You know, to indulge yourself in the special effects and say "Shit, that looks awesome". With all the editing you never have enough time to do so.
I personally think that 2001: A Space Odyssey still has the best use of special effects. Simply for the fact that the movie has the balls to a let you watch the effects for more than a few seconds and enjoy the work that was put into them. If you have good special effects you don't need much editing. It's the same with good Kung Fu scenes. If you have two great martial artists fighting each other, why would you want to cut anyway?
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| DarkMaze wrote: |
| I'd say it's less "Hollywood" and more just Michael Bay. He's ridiculous about ADD editing. |
Which is something I'll never be able to understand. If you spend millions of dollars on CGI, I would assume you'd have an interest in people actually being able to take a decent look at what you spend all that money for. You know, to indulge yourself in the special effects and say "Shit, that looks awesome". With all the editing you never have enough time to do so.
I personally think that 2001: A Space Odyssey still has the best use of special effects. Simply for the fact that the movie has the balls to a let you watch the effects for more than a few seconds and enjoy the work that was put into them. If you have good special effects you don't need much editing. It's the same with good Kung Fu scenes. If you have two great martial artists fighting each other, why would you want to cut anyway? |
well said.
unless you go the '300' route where EVERY scene was in slow motion. that got annoying.
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DarkMaze
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| Tyop wrote: |
| I personally think that 2001: A Space Odyssey still has the best use of special effects. Simply for the fact that the movie has the balls to a let you watch the effects for more than a few seconds and enjoy the work that was put into them. |
Which is particularly awesome when you consider the ships flying through space are just photograph cut-outs. 
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| If you have good special effects you don't need much editing. It's the same with good Kung Fu scenes. If you have two great martial artists fighting each other, why would you want to cut anyway? |
That's not entirely true, though. You cut for dramatic reasons -- to alter the pace or to get in close for a reaction, for example. And sometimes the reasons are more practical, like when a particular sequence involves safety issues that require breaking it down into multiple shots.
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Black Zarak
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He just needs to slow the fucking fights down in general because once two robots clash in that movie, good luck trying to tell what's happening to whom, it turns into a big blur of metal plates tumbling into buildings.
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TheRoboSleuth
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Sometimes cuts are used to keep attention in the same way that you have to move the lazer pointer quickly to keep the cat attacking it.
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Blackout
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| Black Zarak wrote: |
| He just needs to slow the fucking fights down in general because once two robots clash in that movie, good luck trying to tell what's happening to whom, it turns into a big blur of metal plates tumbling into buildings. |
Look at it this way, if you were standing there minding your own business and two giant fucking robots came careening down the street whomping the shit out of each other, wouldn't it look like a big metallic blur to you?
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ReeperTheSeeker
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| Blackout Boy wrote: |
| Black Zarak wrote: |
| He just needs to slow the fucking fights down in general because once two robots clash in that movie, good luck trying to tell what's happening to whom, it turns into a big blur of metal plates tumbling into buildings. |
Look at it this way, if you were standing there minding your own business and two giant fucking robots came careening down the street whomping the shit out of each other, wouldn't it look like a big metallic blur to you? |
True, if it was real life but we are talking about a movie and at least one or two scene where have a few seconds to see what damage the two robots are doing to eachother. At least the original Transformers movie gave us that.
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Blackout
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| ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
| Blackout Boy wrote: |
| Black Zarak wrote: |
| He just needs to slow the fucking fights down in general because once two robots clash in that movie, good luck trying to tell what's happening to whom, it turns into a big blur of metal plates tumbling into buildings. |
Look at it this way, if you were standing there minding your own business and two giant fucking robots came careening down the street whomping the shit out of each other, wouldn't it look like a big metallic blur to you? |
True, if it was real life but we are talking about a movie and at least one or two scene where have a few seconds to see what damage the two robots are doing to eachother. At least the original Transformers movie gave us that. |
Theres a few slow downs but yeah all in all it's a bit fast. I guess all you can do at this point is utilize the slow button on the remote, but thats no fun.
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Knyte
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If Michael Bay gave people time to think in his movies, everyone would realize how shitty a director he is.
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ReeperTheSeeker
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| Knyte wrote: |
| If Michael Bay gave people time to think in his movies, everyone would realize how shitty a director he is. |
LOL
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TheRoboSleuth
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I'd prefer the opposite approach, more in line with Big O. The robots move so fast they hardly have any sense of weight. In Iron Man, it just feels like there is a guy in a very heavy suit of armor.
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Murdar Machene
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Transformers was Michael Bay's best movie ever, and quite possibly one of the best movies ever made. Ever.
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Tebor
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Know what I noticed? Tom Lenk is in the movie!
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| Tyop wrote: |
| If you have good special effects you don't need much editing. It's the same with good Kung Fu scenes. If you have two great martial artists fighting each other, why would you want to cut anyway? |
That's not entirely true, though. You cut for dramatic reasons -- to alter the pace or to get in close for a reaction, for example. And sometimes the reasons are more practical, like when a particular sequence involves safety issues that require breaking it down into multiple shots. |
Captain Amazing's death - Case in point.
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him and the guy from that other show. In the computer analyst part.
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Sock
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My favorite part of Transformers was the blurry action scene followed the stiff acting.
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Tebor
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| Sock wrote: |
| My favorite part of Transformers was the blurry action scene followed the stiff acting. |
Bourne Ultimatum? 
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