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Tebor
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Title: Master of the Universe
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2008 07:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
Personally I think it is a cycle. The universe expands outwards due to the explosion from the big bang. However, over time, gravity does exist and a black hole will form at the center, it will drag everything back and it will remain there until the cycle repeats.

I heard a theory that there's too much mass in the universe to be pulled back together and will keep expanding for eternity. That was four years ago, but I remember it was a compelling argument.

Thus, science becomes the new religion.


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TheRoboSleuth
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2008 01:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Remember back in the day when science would test hypothesis to determine the behavior of a given variable under certain conditions, and not make wild guesses at things happening billions of years in the future?

Those were the days.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2008 11:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

Tebor wrote:
I heard a theory that there's too much mass in the universe to be pulled back together and will keep expanding for eternity.

It depends on how much dark matter is in the universe. If there's a lot, our universe is "closed", and the universe will eventually stop expanding and then contract in the reverse of the big bang, leading to a cycle of "big bangs" and "big crunches" - which would also mean that time is cyclical. If there's not a lot of dark matter, the universe is "open" and will continue to expand forever. If there's a moderate level or "just right" amount, the universe is "flat" and will eventually stop expanding at a certain size, or the expansion will decrease to such a small amount that it will be inconsequential.

Scientists don't know how much dark matter there is yet, so whether our universe is closed, flat, or open is still unknown.
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Kubo
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2008 02:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What's beyond the boundary of the universe (if it's finite or expanding into infinity)? Not meant to be smartassy, I'm just curious as to what anyone has heard/thinks?


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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Feb 23 2008 11:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Kubo wrote:
What's beyond the boundary of the universe (if it's finite or expanding into infinity)? Not meant to be smartassy, I'm just curious as to what anyone has heard/thinks?


If you consider the universe to be space and agree that all matter was originated from a single point, then there would be nothing else around it.

I am not sure that others would agree, but the concept of nothing being greater than everything does seem like a valid explanation to me.

I would love to be able to look out into the nothing from a planet on the edge of the universe.

A true nothingness seems like something to behold.



 
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Tebor
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PostPosted: Feb 23 2008 11:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You would turn into a Reaver.

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