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Syd Lexia
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Freddy's back. Again.
New Line is in talks with horror production company Platinum Dunes to re-launch the "Nightmare on Elm Street" movie series, the franchise that helped establish the studio.
The first "Nightmare" movie was made by Wes Craven and released in 1984. The runaway success of the film spawned a slew of sequels and created one of the most popular villains in screen history, Freddy Krueger, played by Robert Englund.
The film centered on Krueger, a serial child killer murdered by angry parents, who returns with a burned face and a razor glove to terrorize teens in their dreams.
A screenwriter will be hired once the Writers Guild of America strike ends. The producers -- Michael Bay, Brad Fuller and Andrew Form -- are hoping to focus part of the new movie on Krueger's backstory.
Platinum Dunes is prepping another re-launch, "Friday the 13th," which will be directed by Marcus Nispel for New Line, for whom it remade "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" and its sequel.
The company is remaking "Near Dark" for Rogue and "The Birds" for Universal. It is also prepping a non-remake project, an untitled David Goyer thriller. |
Fontaine, this is one the reasons that people don't like Michael Bay; he's a massive cocksucker. We didn't need that Chainsaw remake or it's shitty prequel, and we certainly don't need an NOES prequel/quasi-remake. If Rob Zombie's Halloween proved anything, it's that people don't fucking care about the backstory. Any horror movie that has more exposition than killing isn't going to please anyone. The hardcore fans will hate it, the casual fans won't care, and it's not going to impress the critics. And they sure as fuck better get Englund. Freddy Krueger doesn't exist without Englund anymore than Ernest exists without Jim Varney.
And that last paragraph really fucking pisses me off. A remake of The Birds? Seriously? That's going to be ten thousand kinds of awful.
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Tebor
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Tis a sad time to be a horror film. It's this or Asian remakes. Or zombie films... So many zombie films in development. 
I concur about Englund, but I'm also a Snake Plissken ain't anyone but Russell guy. That won't stop Hollywood.
This is all a money making ploy, which is sort of upsetting because we're putting out movies with a brand and expect people to watch it... And they do. I wish fans were a little more respected in the industry, but they're just seen as walking wallets.
I also can't be angry at Bay, because he is a fan and he really does try produce these remakes with a certain level of quality -- granted, not very good quality in a lot people's opinions. But there's something to be said about trying to get there first before someone else ruins it. I don't know what... but it says something.
And I might end up being involved with a "White Noise 3" or "Urban Legends 4" so I shouldn't really be talking just yet...
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DarkMaze
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| Tebor wrote: |
| I'm also a Snake Plissken ain't anyone but Russell guy. |
Or David Hayter. 
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| I also can't be angry at Bay, because he is a fan and he really does try produce these remakes with a certain level of quality |
That's no excuse for making garbage.
Incidentally, Freddy vs. Jason included a little bit of backstory for Freddy. It lasted all of about 30 seconds and was plenty. All we needed to see was him creepily licking the back of a photo of a little girl.
There actually was another Birds movie. It was a direct to video flick called "The Birds II: Land's End." And it's an Alan Smithee film. 
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Ross Rifle
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In Hollywood, all there is is 1. remakes 2. sequels 3. book/video game adaptations and 4. movies based on/inspired by true stories.
Nightmare on Elm Street does not have to be remade. Neither does Friday the 13th, and neither did Halloween or Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It's fucking ridiculous. Someone oughtta come up with, God forbid, an original movie. I kinda hate Hollywood, that's why the only movies I've seen recently were Cloverfield and Juno.
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I agree. This remake is a total waste of time/money. Didnt they already give Freddy's backstory in that one TV series based on NoES?
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Syd Lexia
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| Tebor wrote: |
| And I might end up being involved with a "White Noise 3" or "Urban Legends 4" so I shouldn't really be talking just yet... |
You do what you have to do to get your foot in the door. You dance like a trained monkey and direct or rewrite whatever shitty script they give you to work with and then sooner or later, if you're any good, someone will notice that you are good even though the finished product is trash.
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Yeah, nothing wrong with being a part of those films. Like Syd said, you gotta do what ya gotta do.
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It's always a remake, never an original these days.
I didn't need a remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Halloween. And I certainly don't need a remake of Friday the 13th, NOES, or Barbarella either.
That last one is just there to give Rodriguez's newly acquired girlfriend more face time. Which would be good if she didn't suck at acting.
Fucking Jawbreaker...
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See, I thought the Halloween remake was pretty good, but that's probably becuase Rob Zombie's a good director and I enjoy his movies. He doesn't seem like some dick who decides to remake a movie just to get some money. All the other movies on that list though...just leave them alone. NOES, Friday the 13th, all that other stuff, those are classics, and as a horror fan I really don't want them to get remade into terrible shitfests. They were fine as they were. I might sound a little hypocritical here, but just because one classic slasher got remade doesn't mean all of them have to. The Birds just sounds like a terrible idea too, it was fine the way it was, and I just don't see any way it could be remade into a decent film. Near Dark I'm not so sure about. I've been a huge fan of this movie for years, and I'd kinda like to see it in the light again, maybe it would get more people to appreciate it. Then again, we could have the same thing that happened with The Hills Have Eyes, which was another movie I loved. Near Dark could turn out pretty good, or it could be terrible and make me end up hating everything thatr has to do with it. And of course if it does turn out to be successful then everyone will love it and have no idea there was a better version before it.
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It's pretty stale how all of these iconic horror movies are being remade around the same time. Sure, TCM was released a while ago, but now we are probaby going to have a remade Halloween, Friday the 13th, Hellraiser, and Nightmare on Elm Street all released so close together.
Prequels are uninteresting, in my opinion, and I really don't care about backstory if it's not part of the original film series. I didn't think that the backstory in the new Halloween added much.
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Syd Lexia
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I thought Rob Zombie's Halloween was well done, and I know he's a HUGE fan of the original, but at the same time, there was no real pay-off to the backstory. OK, so his early life kinda sucked. That still doesn't explain why he's an invincible killer.
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Or why he grew from a regular looking kid into a 7 foot tall pro wrestler. Some of the victims in that movie didn't take his size into consideration.
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
| I thought Rob Zombie's Halloween was well done, and I know he's a HUGE fan of the original, but at the same time, there was no real pay-off to the backstory. OK, so his early life kinda sucked. That still doesn't explain why he's an invincible killer. |
they've come up with all sorts of ridiculous reasons for him to be an invincible killer in the sequels. I think zombie was trying to get into the character psychologically in his flick, to explain why michael wants to kill moreso than why he can kill. I didn't get a chance to see the movie though (I somehow ended up drunk in the theater for dragon wars when I bought my ticket) so I may be wrong.
on the topic of remakes, they are probably trying to appeal to a newer audience. I'm sure a lot of people who might be interested in a nightmare on elm street or a firday the thirteenth weren't around or weren't old enough to see it in 1984. hell, I know I wasn't even born yet. The average joe isn't dedicated enough to sit through an older movie, considering they're spoiled on all these current big budget blockbusters. it's a simple matter of giving people what they want.
same with the asian remakes (although I hate them). not everyone is going to have the patience to find a foreign movie, try to understand it, and then watch it in a differnet language. the idea for the movie might be great, but the cultural differences would make the movie much less enojoyable to the average american. it's simply a matter of taking a good idea, and trying to change it into somethign that appeals to a culture different than the one it originated in.
granted, pretty much all of these remakes have derailed the whole shit anyways, but that's what I think the basic idea was supposed to be.
When you get down to it though, I don't think there are any more ideas that haven't already been done a few times before. I challenge anyone in this thread who complained about remakes to come up with an original idea for a movie and post it here. prove me wrong.
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| Mr. Grimes wrote: |
| Or why he grew from a regular looking kid into a 7 foot tall pro wrestler. Some of the victims in that movie didn't take his size into consideration. |
he ate his vitamins and said his prayers, brother!
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| JEW wrote: |
| Mr. Grimes wrote: |
| Or why he grew from a regular looking kid into a 7 foot tall pro wrestler. Some of the victims in that movie didn't take his size into consideration. |
he ate his vitamins and said his prayers, brother!
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Yes, that explains everything! That was pretty much the reply I was looking for, by the way...
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It really is about brands. The Nightmare on Elm Street name guarantees that it'll make a certain amount of money. Plus, Bob Shaye is leaving New Line, that's why this is happening.
| Syd Lexia wrote: |
| You do what you have to do to get your foot in the door. You dance like a trained monkey and direct or rewrite whatever shitty script they give you to work with and then sooner or later, if you're any good, someone will notice that you are good even though the finished product is trash. |
Actually, if the script sucks DON'T touch it. At least two screenwriters have told me that. One producer I met today dodged Gigli that way.
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Ross Rifle
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wow, he dodged one gigantic bullet made of shit...I saw caught Gigli on tv once. it was so bad I walked out of my house.
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| Tebor wrote: |
| I also can't be angry at Bay, because he is a fan and he really does try produce these remakes with a certain level of quality -- granted, not very good quality in a lot people's opinions. |
Yeah, like he's a fan of Transformers, remember how true to the source material and awesome that movie was?
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| It's pretty stale how all of these iconic horror movies are being remade around the same time. Sure, TCM was released a while ago, but now we are probaby going to have a remade Halloween, Friday the 13th, Hellraiser, and Nightmare on Elm Street all released so close together. |
I would actually like to see a Hellraiser relaunch if done correctly. The sequels are god-awful at this point and with today's effects they could make an even more gruesome film than the originals. I don't know if I'd insist on Clive Barker being involved, but at least someone who understands the mythos and could do it justice. Like Michael Bay!
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| Black Zarak wrote: |
| Tebor wrote: |
| I also can't be angry at Bay, because he is a fan and he really does try produce these remakes with a certain level of quality -- granted, not very good quality in a lot people's opinions. |
Yeah, like he's a fan of Transformers, remember how true to the source material and awesome that movie was?
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I do, actually.
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Tebor
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| Black Zarak wrote: |
| Tebor wrote: |
| I also can't be angry at Bay, because he is a fan and he really does try produce these remakes with a certain level of quality -- granted, not very good quality in a lot people's opinions. |
Yeah, like he's a fan of Transformers, remember how true to the source material and awesome that movie was? |
Yeah, it was FAN-tastick. 
Hellraiser 2 is great, better than the first.
"The Scarlet Gospels" needs to be a movie. That book needs to get optioned like TODAY.
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| Tebor wrote: |
| Hellraiser 2 is great, better than the first. |
Okay: slugfest. You and me. Right now. 
Oh, wait...
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Black Zarak
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| DarkMaze wrote: |
| Tebor wrote: |
| Hellraiser 2 is great, better than the first. |
Okay: slugfest. You and me. Right now.
Oh, wait... |
I agree with him actually, one is great, but a little slow paced. Plus two has more cenobite face time.
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Touche... Well, you win this time DM... But never forget... SHAME! 
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As much as I hate remakes, I liked Rob Zombie's Halloween. Horror movies with pointless random killers are extremely retarded.
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