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ZOMG! Old episodes of Sesame Street are unsuitable for kids!


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 04:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/magazine/18wwln-medium-t.html

I actually threw up a little bit reading this liberal bullshit.

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I asked Carol-Lynn Parente, the executive producer of “Sesame Street,” how exactly the first episodes were unsuitable for toddlers in 2007. She told me about Alistair Cookie and the parody “Monsterpiece Theater.” Alistair Cookie, played by Cookie Monster, used to appear with a pipe, which he later gobbled. According to Parente, “That modeled the wrong behavior” — smoking, eating pipes — “so we reshot those scenes without the pipe, and then we dropped the parody altogether.”

Oh noes! If kids see Cookie Monster with a pipe, they'll want to smoke too! Perhaps, except that Alistair Cookie had a fucking BUBBLE PIPE.
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 05:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If they get rid of Grover pissing off that one bald guy I'll kill them.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 05:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I remember those skits! Those were great too, stupid liberal douches.

I'm not a smoker, and if something as frivolous as a dessert-eating monster having a smoke convinced me to do the same as a child, I wouldn't deserve to make any choices for myself.
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 05:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I read this article yesterday after being especially disgusted by a blurb on imdb.com that summarized some of Parente's points.

Frankly, I can't understand if the author of the article is being genuine or sarcastic. Really. I've read through the article a couple of times and every time I thought she was going one way, she said something that made me think twice.

But in any event, yes. It's a load of complete crap.
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 05:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'd rather have my kids watch stuff like in the old Sesame Street than the watered-down pussyfest that is kid's TV today.


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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 06:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

More proof that liberals are going to wipe away the characters we know and love (well, except for Elmo, but that's beside the point.)
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 06:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

We must protect Oscar the Grouch's worldview from them! They'll be after his cynicism next, saying he derails kids from having a "positve attitude".

And I still say that Grover is way better than that wussy Elmo. Effeminate moron.
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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 08:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

DarkMaze wrote:
Frankly, I can't understand if the author of the article is being genuine or sarcastic. Really. I've read through the article a couple of times and every time I thought she was going one way, she said something that made me think twice.

Same here. At times it seems like it's supposed to be humorous, other times it seems like author is genuinely upset with the early Sesame Street episodes. Given as this is from the New York Times website, I'm inclined to believe it's for serious.

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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 09:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So now shit on sesame street is no long suitable for children? It's no wonder most of the kids shows of today suck so hard, soon the nation will be so 'pussy' that the majority of our arm forces will be from the boy scouts armed with supersoakers.

I mean come on, seeing a puppet smoke is not going to cause the kid to become a chain smoker . . . his parents on the other hand . . .


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PostPosted: Nov 20 2007 11:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I remeber when I heard on National Pubblic Radio that they were retconning the Cookie Monster to be a pussy-ass "healthy snacks and the ocasional cookie" monster. Even the NPR lefties seemed a bit put off by the whole thing.

I understand what the folks at S.S. are trying to do. They're paranoid that, in an age of childhood obesity, the Cookie Monster might be setting a bad example for the kids. Of course, they should know that childhood obeisity is caused by an increase in the popularity of fast foods and video games coupled with a corresponding decrease in parental responsibility and the entertainment value of being outdoors. It is not based on the enduring legacy of our blue, furry friend.

I'm not sure how they handled Cookie Monster's transition into healthyness, but it seems like if they used a character like Elmo to be C.M.'s straightedge buddy who always temporarily succeeded in getting him to "eat better," then the message would be sent. Then again, most kids already know that Elmo is a fuckin' tool. So nevermind,


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PostPosted: Nov 21 2007 12:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

People need a physical entity to blame, and they sure as hell aren't going to blame something that they have control over, because that would be like blaming themselves, and every knows that's it's always someone else's fault.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Scapegoating is America's national passtime.


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PostPosted: Nov 21 2007 12:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Wait, I have Old School Sesame Street volume 1. I don't remember any such warning on it. It's one of the most family friendly programs I have on DVD! I'm not sure who wrote the article, but I bet they had a deadline to meet and couldn't find anything else to write about.


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PostPosted: Nov 21 2007 10:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Coach McGuirk wrote:
New York Times
New York Times!?
You think your better than us?
Us?
Us!?
U.S.
U.S.A!
No way!
The End.

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I don't think these people speak for most liberals, though. Something tells me that an overwhelming number of people would agree that the author's/Parente's point of view is completely stupid. I suspect that it's a vocal minority who's actually concerned about old-school Sesame Street harming children.

BTW, Tebor, nice to see a return to a more classic avatar. Wink
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PostPosted: Nov 21 2007 05:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

DarkMaze wrote:
I don't think these people speak for most liberals, though.

I don't either, especially since Sesame Street was written and produced by a bunch of crazyass hippies. Lovable, brilliant hippies.
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PostPosted: Nov 21 2007 08:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You can all thank the left for this.
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PostPosted: Nov 21 2007 11:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What? Sesame Street? Because I can't see the left censoring Sesame Street. The left is liberal, right?


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PostPosted: Nov 22 2007 12:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

They believe in censorship, just a different kind. The right is all about censoring sexual innuendo, witchcraft, atheism, and whatever stupid things they overzealously misinterpret as such. The left is all about censoring violence, bad eating habits, smoking, and anything they decide is racist, sexist, homophobic, or overtly religious.
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PostPosted: Nov 22 2007 01:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
They believe in censorship, just a different kind. The right is all about censoring sexual innuendo, witchcraft, atheism, and whatever stupid things they overzealously misinterpret as such. The left is all about censoring violence, bad eating habits, smoking, and anything they decide is racist, sexist, homophobic, or overtly religious.

So basically left or right, people will still bitch about something. I wonder if those in the middle mildly bitch about everything?


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PostPosted: Nov 22 2007 01:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Nah, the moderates mainly go about their life, trying to get by. So, they admirably avoid the group-think that political factions entail, but they fail to take a stand on anything that doesn't directly affect them.
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PostPosted: Nov 22 2007 01:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm watching "The Rise of Video Games" on Discovery, and I read your post just as a clip of Ronald Reagan said "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!". It was weird.


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PostPosted: Nov 22 2007 06:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The left is all about censoring violence, bad eating habits, smoking, and anything they decide is racist, sexist, homophobic, or overtly religious.

Only because it's important to them to make sure they can go "hey, we went out of our way not to offend [insert this week's victimized group]", overlooking the fact that they pissed other people off in the process.

I'm no big right-winger, because they're on the level with snake handling churches to me, but that who liberal facade of "everything is okay" when everything is obviously not okay, is just as bad.
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PostPosted: Nov 22 2007 10:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
Nah, the moderates mainly go about their life, trying to get by. So, they admirably avoid the group-think that political factions entail, but they fail to take a stand on anything that doesn't directly affect them.

Punks, if you will.


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PostPosted: Nov 23 2007 01:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

I ended up watching Old School Sesame Street today for Thanksgiving with the family and there is a warning, but it's such a silly thing. The article really blew it out of proportion.


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