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Lady_Satine
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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 01:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Remember when Radiohead announced last week that they would be releasing their seventh album, In Rainbows, via their official website and that fans could pay whatever they want (even nothing!) for the music? And then everyone from Madonna to Nine Inch Nails came out of the woodwork and announced they were also leaving their major label home to try unique methods of selling straight to the public?

Well, it turns out Radiohead mighta been scamming us in order to build enough hype around the album for it to get picked up by one of the major label the band appeared to be rallying against.

Bastards!

Turns out, many feel the quality of the downloads the band is offering on its site are…um…crappy. And, even worse, the band's managers made a statement that the you-choose-the-price downloads plan was just a promotional tool for the release of the CD.

Regarding the possible crappiness, on October 9, the day before the album became available for download, fans who ordered the album got an email from the band’s online store saying that "the album [would] come as a 48.4 MB ZIP file containing 10 x 160 [kilobits per second], DRM-free MP3s." This pissed off many fans because 1. all of Radiohead's other albums are available as MP3s encoded at the higher-quality 320 kilobits per second (the highest-possible compression rate in the format, though still not as good sounding as a CD), and 2. no one was told this until AFTER they paid for the service.

Then managers Chris Hufford and Bryce Edge mentioned in a recent interview about how the downloadable version of Rainbows figures into the larger plan of releasing a retail version in 2008.

"In November we have to start with the mass-market plans and get them under way," Hufford said.

"If we didn't believe that when people hear the music they will want to buy the CD, then we wouldn't do what we are doing," Edge added.

In other words, some fans feel the band purposely released a low quality version to fans for this go around, knowing full well they’d be releasing a better quality version in stores later on. This way, fans would have to re-buy it to get the best quality version, and when peer-to-peers got hold of it, they’d be trading inferior copies. All this might not be so bad if the band had been up front about it and described it as a chance for fans to hear the music early, in advance of the high quality CD version. But the impression some got was that this downloadable copy WAS the final, official, best quality version.

So is this kinda sneaky and capitalistic for a band who prides themselves on being a band of the people, a band of outsiders, not influenced by the evil music business, huh? or did everyone jump the gun and assume there wouldn't be a major label version, when the band never actually said that, per say?


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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 06:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

160 kilobits isn't that bad. A lot of the mp3s I sitting on my hard drive from the glory days of Scour Media Agent are only 128 kilobits and they sound fine. These whiny little Radiohead fans seriously needs to shut the fuck up. When they're listening to the album on their shitty iPod earbuds, they won't notice the difference.

Now if the album was being given to them as 10 2MB Real Audio files, then I could understand them complaining.

And NIN's version of a free album was done first and it was done better. Trent Reznor hid mem-sticks with leaked tracks at concert venues for fans to find. None of this "pay what you want" crap.
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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 08:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

When I heard about this and i immediately thought:

"Majority of the people who do this 'pay what you want crap' will want it for free."

I mean free LEGAL Music is just too hard to pass up. I'm not a fan of radiohead so i really don't see the need to participate in this madness. and i figured there was a catch. If the band really wanted to promote the album they could have just let some demos of the tracks leak to the internet or perform some of the songs live as a surprises to the fans. The latter one is more old school and classy.

Soon bands won't have albums thanks to music bars and the ipod. But . . . how the hell can you have bands without there albums history? I know we are living in a new day and age were music storage is getting more advance but their are some traditions that should remain.


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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 08:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The latest band to leave thier Record Company over the shittiness of the RIAA: Led Zeppelin. Who reportedly just walked out on their contract.

At this point, the record companies should be starting to sweat. Soon, all the major bands will start releasing thier music independently or through digital distrabution sites, and the old fashioned, big corperate Record Labels will become obsolete.

I mean really, with the advent of the internet and digital music, what good are the record companies? You can advertise yourself on the web, sell your music over the web, and schedule your own tour dates and venues? Why sell your new CD for $18, piss off your fan base at the high prices, and only get to keep a couple bucks off each album?

Do it yourself. Sell your album for $10, or $1 a song. Keep 90%-100% of the money and make your fans happier for more affordable music!

Also, I have "In Rainbows", and though the enjoyable quality of the new music is questionable the sound quality is not. Sounds just fine to me. But, then again, I remember ripping CDs into 22khz 8-bit wav files. Maybe my hearing just sucks.
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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 09:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Most of my mp3s are 128k, and they sound fine. Either that, or they're VBR.


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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 09:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I hate Radiohead, but it has nothing to do with this.
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PostPosted: Oct 15 2007 11:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not a big of their newer stuff like Kid A and Hail To The Thief, but I likes the older Radiohead.

And they were on one of the best episodes of South Park EVER, so I have much respect for them.
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PostPosted: Oct 17 2007 07:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
And they were on one of the best episodes of South Park EVER, so I have much respect for them.


Yeah, that's true. And I loved that episode.

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Ross Rifle
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PostPosted: Oct 17 2007 09:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

How the hell does Zep still have a record contract?? They haven't released new material for 28 years! Anyway, this is getting interesting. I'm very concerned about my own future in music, so I've been keeping tabs on everything. Maybe the destruction of the companies could bring us back to the 60s-80s heyday, with multi-million selling albums and sell-out tours?

God I hope so


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