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Poll :: Sam and Max: Hit the Road OR Sam and Max: Season 1

Sam and Max: Hit the Road
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Sam and Max: Season 1 Box Set
100%
 100%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 3


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Chwoka
Joined: Jun 03 2007
PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 12:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, so I'm in a dilemma. I want to buy a Sam and Max game, but I'm not sure if I should play Sam & Max: Hit The Road or Sam & Max: Season 1 box set. I only have money for one. What do you guys think I should get?
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Rycona
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 02:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I believe you can download Hit the Road for free. Of course, through torrents you could probably get the DVDs too, but it'd take longer and be harder to find.

Here's a link to Hit the Road: http://vetusware.com/download/Sam%20&%20Max%20Hit%20the%20Road/?id=161

Ahh, the power of abandonware.


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Chwoka
Joined: Jun 03 2007
PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 05:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wait, what? I can get Sam and Max: Hit the Road for free?

...Wait...

I don't think I'll be able to download it. I can see the conversation now...

"Dad, it used to be a retail product, but now it's free."
"It's still up for sale, right?"
"Well, yeah, but I wouldn't be giving money to the original makers, just a guy who owns it and doesn't want it..."

etc.
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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 05:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You don't have your own computer? I torrent shit all the time.


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 05:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I DO have my own computer. It's just I have to ask to download stuff, because it becomes my dad's job to un-virus my computer when it gets one that the virus software can't get. That, and something irks me about not paying for it...
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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 05:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, just don't get viruses. Try Avira AntiVir, it catches most everything.


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 06:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

How would I obtain this item?
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 06:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Grisoft AVG is another good free AV, found at grisoft.com

And Lavasoft's Ad-Aware is good to have as well.

Spybot: Seek And Destroy sucks though. Do not use it under any circumstances.
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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 06:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Oh, good. I already have Grisoft AVG. Ok, so, I can't download it right now, because my dad isn't home. Can anybody help me with some key points I should hit to persuade him to let me download it?
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 07:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

First find out if LocusArts still owns the rights to the game. If they do go to LucasArts.com and see if it is for sale. If it is not, then try this argument:

When a person creates something, whether that creation is a building, a novel, a poem, a song, or a film, that person is doing so for 2 reasons. First, that person is satisfying a personal desire to create. It is not possible to point out exactly what it is that drives creation, but if you ask someone who creates the answer you probably receive is that it is somewhat like an itch that demands to be scratched. Ideas float through the head that must become reality, and the seasoned creator knows just how to turn these ideas into reality and which are actually worthy of the process. Second, that person creates so others may experience and possibly enjoy the creation. Every creation requires an audience and it is not enough for some creators to capture the attention of merely contemporary audiences. Some creators wish for their creations a prosperous life so that hundreds of generations after their deaths people are still experiencing them.

Here is where abandonwarez enters the picture.

Most forms of media are guaranteed a long life, especially books. The unfortunate thing about computer games is that they have only recently begun to find a popular audience, and all the newcomers to the computer gaming scene—specifically, the adventure gaming scene—are unaware of the great treasures which have once existed and do not undoubtedly care less. Unlike books which continue to be reprinted over and over long after their debut release, older computer games are inevitably lost and forgotten without the voluntary help of individual collectors because the computer industry is technology driven and computer games are unrecognized as valuable past their prime as classic novels and old films are considered. This especially threatens the adventure gaming genre, seeing as the majority of these old games is constituted by adventure games.

When I speak of abandonware, I am sure that most readers are familiar with the concept. For anyone who is not, I shall explain it briefly. Abandonware trading is the illegal trading of computer games which have not been seen on the shelf of a single computer store for ages and yet still retain a copyright which prevents unauthorized distribution. Abandonware are games so old that they cannot even be found in the bargain bin. The defense of people who trade abandonware is that they are pirating games with a relatively nil market value. I am not going to go too deeply into the issue of pirating itself, since I think that is not what is most important here, but I must say that the defense sounds reasonable. The computer industry does not endorse older games, nor does it continue to stock the shelves of computer stores with these games. There are those like myself and others who have grown up with these older games and may go to the trouble of specially ordering these games directly from the company, if the company even produces the game anymore! Yet, for anyone who is not around when these games are first released, their existence is invariably unknown and the game companies can never hope to extract any profit from them. In the end, however, I prefer that computer companies agree with the abandonware view and even support it (it does happen very rarely; for example, Sierra On-Line has released Red Baron and Betrayal of Krondor as freeware), and that is why an article like this must exist.

Sometimes I think about the world in which my children are growing up. I have been playing adventure games since 7 years old and they have had a profound effect on my development as a person. I play them when the realm of computer gaming has been mostly reserved for the nerdier types (although I do not really consider myself a nerd), and I always feel like my experience with adventure games so young has given me an edge over the other children who are too busy being groomed for a pop culture related social life. I want my children to have the same I have had and this is why I so strongly support abandonware—prosperity!

By now you may be wondering whether I am discussing abandonware to the point of overshadowing adventure games, but that is not the case at all. Most adventure games are abandonware, so when I speak in favor of saving abandonware I am speaking of the protection of some of the best adventure games ever to be programmed. The issue is about archiving the past and making all those great games easily accessible to those who come after us.

When a ship is sinking, people escape that ship and leave it behind; when a building is burning, people escape the building and allow it to burn to the ground. The classics are huddled right now in sinking ships and burning buildings—copies of them are limited and the Floppy Disks and CDs which they inhabit are destined to some day be lost or deteriorate. Like endangered people, the data on this media must be allowed to escape and take shelter in the large expanse of the internet, allowing volunteers for the cause to build collections, trade collections, and maintain collections at any cost. Under the regulations of the computer industry, however, these classics are condemned to die, and some day when people think of computer games the term “adventure game” is going to either be a part of a vestigial game vocabulary or some unholy game hybrid which includes terms such as “action/adventure”, “RPG/adventure”, “action/RPG/adventure”, or some other abominable combination.

The question is whether or not you care if your children ever know about a little thing called Space Quest. Even if you belong to the optimistic group of people who believe the adventure game genre may soon pull itself out of its cadaverous state, the fact remains that the computer industry is not taking measures to ensure that the games which have made them what they are today are recognized and enjoyed in the next few decades. Individual collectors of original copies are only a partial solution. Free trade of abandonware over the internet ensures a loftier home for the adventure elders and it makes it easier for the unseasoned gamer to stumble upon them. Otherwise, how can we expect there to ever again be a market for adventure games in the future? If the classics are forgotten then people are going to quit demanding quality adventure games, and, instead, they are going to be brainwashed into buying the sort of hi-tech, 3D, graphic show which computer game companies, like the movie industry, use to flood the market with products which contain more package than they do substance.

The movie industry has been around for more than 80 years, literature has existed since humanity becomes civilized, and we have been making music ever since we can stand upright. The computer game—and most importantly, the adventure game—however, is an infant medium which has not been with us much more than 25 years. In that short amount of time it has already learned the same commercialistic corruption which taints every other medium in today’s society, and if the classics, the greatest intellectual feats of the medium which prove it has a serious side, removing it from the derogatory term “video game”, are allowed to become forgotten, then the computer game—the adventure game—is destined to die an unfortunate and premature death.
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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 07:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow, Knyte. Was this pre-written or did you make it up right then?

Also, um, that part about kids and stuff doesn't apply to me. I also think it's a bit lengthy, but I don't mean to be picky. And the whole idea was to convince him that Sam and Max were legitimate games that didn't contain viruses.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 07:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, that's the best arguement in existance for defending Abandonware. So, take what you need from it.
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Rycona
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PostPosted: Aug 08 2007 11:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sam and Max is made my LucasArts, so if your dad loves Star Wars, be sure to mention that.


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 09 2007 01:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hey, I'm actually allowed to download it. Too bad the first place I tried gave em the Demo...

Um, Ryconna, can you walk me through the download? I've downloaded the .zip, but I have no idea how to do anything else, because it says I need to download with the floppy...
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Rycona
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 02:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sure, I don't have it on this computer yet, so LET'S DO THIS!

1) Go to
http://vetusware.com/download/Sam%20&%20Max%20Hit%20the%20Road/?id=161
2) Download file
3) Open with WinZip, WinRar, or whatever you have.
4) Extract to the folder of your choice.
5) Run program with the SAMNMAX.EXE file.

The Copy Protection isn't a big deal. Just keep restarting until it asks for Max's clothes, then just make sure he's naked and hit Enter. That has always worked for me.


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 08:18 am Reply with quote Back to top

Um, nevermind, actually. It worked. But I was too busy playing to tell you.
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Rycona
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 12:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

D'OH! >_<


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B.B.King
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 01:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

also, I can give you a torrent to download the whole Sam and Max Season 1 box set for free.

now,it's not abandonware. but the games are so short i dont' feel like paying for them


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 01:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No, B.B. King. Those games are still for sale by their original developers.
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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 02:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So is Photoshop and Adobe Premiere, and I torrented those bitches! Hellz yeah, brothaz!!! Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 10 2007 03:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Char Aznable wrote:
So is Photoshop and Adobe Premiere, and I torrented those bitches! Hellz yeah, brothaz!!! Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes


Yes, but I don't want to do that. I think it's stealing.
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B.B.King
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PostPosted: Aug 11 2007 03:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

wow. What is it like living there in the 1950s chwoka?

seriously. The fine people at telltale games will be absolutely fine without your 40 fucking dollars. stop being such a little bitch and steal stuff.


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Chwoka
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PostPosted: Aug 11 2007 07:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No, dude, I wouidn't feel right. Unlike you, I have GUILT for stealing from developers. My $40 could be the one that pushes them over the goal, so they decide to make a new non-episodic game.
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PostPosted: Aug 11 2007 10:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

BB wants you to be more like this guy:
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Aug 12 2007 12:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well, I kind sorta justify my many years of being a pirate/leech.

From the age of 18 until about 4 years ago, I was bitch ass poor.

I made minimum wage or slightly higher, and after school,bills, groceries, etc. I was lucky to have 20 bucks to my name to last me a week. So, I pirated games to play, becasue I simply could not afford them, unless they were 3 years old and in the $4.99 bargin bin at Software Etc. Hell, I preordered Wrestlemania 2000 with $5 down, and make f'n $10 a week payments on the preorder until the day before it came out.

Nowadays, I am not rich by any means, but I have a much larger "Toys and Games" budget. So, now I accually use the "Excuse" that most pirates give when the link pirated software. The whole "Try before you Buy." That's exactly what I do. It a game comes out and interests me, then I download it, try it out and then either delete and forget about it, or go out and buy a legal copy. (Usually so I can enjoy the game fully by playing it online.)
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