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Knyte
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MICROSOFT has admitted that all the 11.6 million Xbox 360s sold in the last 19 months are faulty.
In a statement, Microsoft spinsters said that all of the consoles suffer from a design flaw which could cause the machine to fail.
However, the outfit said that while it is extending the warranty coverage from one to three years to compensate consumers, it had no plans to recall or exchange the boxes.
MS gaming supremo Robbie Bach refused to say what the problem is, but said that units currently in stock will be upgraded.
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Black Zarak
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Fuck.
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Murdar Machene
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What the fuck? 11.6 million? ELEVEN MILLION, SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND BROKEN X-BOXES?
HOW WILL TIMMY EVER GET A CHRISTMAS TIME?
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Kojjiro the Angry
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The problem is supposedly the glue they use to hold a part of the system together that also cools it. The fans cool the glue and it's usually the heatsink breaking or something, I can't remember but I think i saw it on fanboys-online or CAD
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Tishwitch
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Wow... though some might think it's a great idea to come out with the truth, I'd argue that this will seriously hurt Microsoft revenue in the future. Sure, the 11.6 million who already have the Xbox are stuck with it, but will those people (and the millions who don't have an xbox) be as quick to buy the next gaming console?
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Knyte
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Kojjiro the Angry wrote: |
The problem is supposedly the glue they use to hold a part of the system together that also cools it. The fans cool the glue and it's usually the heatsink breaking or something, I can't remember but I think i saw it on fanboys-online or CAD |
The "glue" you are refering to is thermal paste. It's is a special kind of glue used to firmly attach heatsinks to chips, to that as much heat as possible can be transfered.
It that is the case. Then all anyone with a screwdriver and half a brain would need to do is:
1. Go to your local computer parts store. (Or online retailer.)
2. Buy Artic Silver 5 compound.
3. Open up your X360. (This will void the warranty. Just to warn you.)
4. Remove the heatsink from the CPU and GPU.
5. Clean the old paste off with alcohol.
6. Apply a pealr sized amount of AT5 to chip.
7. Spread evenly with a razor blade.
8. Replace Heatsink.
Voila! Problem solved.
If you need pictures and a more detailed description, here's a great how-to guide:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=467045
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Murdar Machene
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Timmy's dad isn't going to know how to fix the X-Box, so it's going to overheat while he plays Halo 5
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Black Zarak
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See, it's pointless, stupid posts like that that cause problems around here. Now go ahead and flame me for pointing out that you're an instigator...
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Murdar Machene
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I was merely asserting that 99% of 360 users are too fucking stupid to open up their console and fix it, so Microsoft will end up suffering due to their shoddy design and the stupidity of their user base.
Is that a little more clear?
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Knyte
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I have to disagree with that. Because if you want to stereotype console owners, then the X360 would have the most tech savy user base.
Wii, would have the lowest, due to being targeted at a General Audience.
PS3, would be second, as at the moment, their user base is only the wealthy and trendy, with maybe a few truly hard core gamers who could afford it.
X360 is the current main-stream hardcore gamer system. Also, let's not forget, that many X360 owners, had original Xboxs. And, the original Xbox was the most hacked and modded console ever made.
Therefore, your comments have no basis of fact. In my eyes, it appears that you are only ripping on the X360, because of either your hate for Microsoft or your "Fanboy" loyalty to another system.
Also, your recent comments in the Video Game forums have been Trollish and Flame-Heavy. It's okay to have an opinion. And, it's also your right to share it. But, it is not your right, nor place, to slam anyone elses opinions. No matter how much you do not agree with them.
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Murdar Machene
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The X-box is easily moddable because, surprise, it's a shitty PC from 3 years ago! Go figure that it has the highest amount of mods per capita, it's made from PC hardware and it's by Microsoft. Does Microsoft even go through any effort to stop modders, besides their threat of a lifetime ban from Live on that console?
PC is the only "hardcore" game system left. The 360 is a bunch of light bloom saturated, pixel shaded rehashes of shit from the last 5 years with identical game mechanics and no innovation. Whee, we can have a bunch of zombies to kill, too bad none of them have AI.
The 360 is the same shit as the X-box, which was just a dumbed down PC in the first place. How is that hardcore? I don't have any fanboy loyalties, I judge a system solely on the merits of the games on that system. So far I've seen a total of 0 (zero) games that would justify the purchase of the 360. I could get a bunch of button mashing combo games like 99 nights, a brainless, AI-less button mash fest in Dead Rising, some laughably bad FPS games, or some ports of PC games that I could run in higher resolution and at higher FPS (not to mention being able to actually play the games with infinitely superior controls) on my PC, like FEAR. It simply has nothing to do with being a fanboy, it has to do with fun games. Every time I look at a 360 game, I see simplified game mechanics in favor of graphics jerk-off sessions, with no innovation or draw.
If you're curious about why I hate the 360 so much, I'll explain. The 360 is a direct threat to quality PC titles, because companies know that releasing a no-effort game that a million dipshits will buy on the 360 instead of actually making a fun game that took effort to create is more lucrative. Gaming is no longer even remotely an art, it is at its core a business. Every new game I play is just a huge grindfest of unlockable content, or a rehash of the same shit from the past 5 years, or both if you're extra lucky. The worst part is, people think that shit like that is fun. How is grinding to unlock shit fun? How is getting a stupid ass achievement in a game fun? It's not. It's text on your screen fueling your desire to complete goals, while the game slowly doles out bits and pieces of itself to artificially extend gameplay time so they can brag about how long the game is on the back of the box. Plain and simple, it just seems like either the devs of today's day and age have NO fucking clue what constitutes a fun video game, or they're just lazy and uncreative losers who have no right to be making games.
Thanks to the ease of programming for consoles due to universal system specs, increased marketability and install base of consoles, and lower price than PC's, corporations that churn out the same shit year after year have no reason not to just go for the gusto releasing as much garbage as they can for the 360 in a huge cash-in. The best a PC gamer can hope for now, instead of exclusive PC titles that are actually promising, is cross-platform games. Cross-platform titles only serve to further weaken the already dwindling support in the belief that the PC is superior to consoles as a gaming platform, in the worst way possible. Any cross-platform game is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, the console, so a cross-platform game will almost always suffer most on PC. Cross-platform games are one of the many factors that are slowly but surely killing the PC's chance at getting a good game that fully takes advantage of the superior controls, graphics, and modability of games.
If you can't understand why I dislike a console that tries to replace a PC, but does a piss-poor job if it, and if you describe that as fanboyism, then don't even bother talking to me. I used to like consoles before they fucked over the opportunity for me to have fun games on MY system of choice. The only games that are considered marketable for PC now are pay-to-play games like WoW, and that's just depressing. I may as well be swiping my credit card to slash at enemies.
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Cattivo
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It sounds like you're a PC fanboy Murdar, and I sympathize. It's a shame you're not into MMORPGs, or else you wouldn't be so angry.
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Black Zarak
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Well, see the point here Murdar is not that you think PCs are better than Xbox, it's that while you are allowed to have any opinion you want, that doesn't necessarily give you the right to say "anybody who owns an Xbox is a fucking idiot because Xbox is teh suk, LOLZZZ!!!!11" Personally, I can't afford a crazy gaming PC, nor do I enjoy controlling things through my keyboard and I always found the mouse to be clumsy in controlling things like FPS. So I prefer a controller and an Xbox. This does not automatically make me a fucking idiot, it is what is known as preference. If you personally think I'm a fucking idiot for playing Xbox, fine, but don't come on here and spew shit about how much anyone who owns an Xbox sucks. Or next time, I'll start spewing shit about how you're a fucking idiot for playing games on PC. I won't have an intelligent argument to back up my claims, but then, neither do you.
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Syd Lexia
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I think Murdar's main thing is that he doesn't like fanboyism. He has gone after all three consoles at various times, as well as the PC, whenever things start to turn into a circle jerk. I don't profess to speak for him, but it seems to me that he's just trying to show you guys that every system out there is flawed, so stop trying to pass your favorite one off as the superior one.
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Cattivo
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I used to not play many PC games because of the controller issue too BZ, but you can find a cheap USB one. I currently have one from Logitech, and it works great for me, especially because I got sick of spending so much money on new consoles every couple of years. Much easier to just buy a top of the line PC that will run most games quickly for five years or so (I think Murdar even said this too once). No more consoles for me. Of course, if I still had time to play PC games a lot, this would be even more important, as I would have bought Civ4 and Everquest already.
I am seriously considering buying a MMORPG sometime soon though. Knyte recommended Neverwinter Nights in another thread, so I might go for that - or wait out the Star Trek Online beta.
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Knyte
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And, also for the record, though recent posts may seem like it, I am not a X360 fanboy, either. The last time I had an extra $400+ to spend on electronics, I purchased a 8800GTS, so that should tell you my system of choice.
Also, we PC gamers till get a few (Not nearly enough) great exclusive titles.
Let's see what we have for the PC:
Crysis (Good luck trying to run that on a console. Unless they make dumbed down versions, like they did with FarCry.)
The best RPGs hands down. At least traditional ones. Such as Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2, Dragon Age, etc.
Want a deep sim game? PC (And, I don't mean The Sims. I'm talking Flight, War, Space, etc.)
Moddable content. We don't have to pay extra money to download extra levels. We just make them ourselves.
I could go on and on.
I think console have taken from PC gaming, no doubt. But, there will always be a market for PC games. I believe that Microsfot knows this too, hence why the Xbox was created the way it was. Especially now that the X360 is basically a DirectX 9.5 box. It's for ease of portability between PC and console.
Besides, there's too much money is PC gaming. Only us PC gamers our dumb enough to spend $400-$1000 in hardware, A YEAR, on our gaming system. Where as console gamers only spend that kinda dough once every console life cycle.
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Murdar Machene
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If nothing else, I know for a fact PC will always have home-made free shit, and mods. Those alone have been enough to sustain like half of my PC gaming for a long time. The Wii could be a good platform for this in the future, but I don't think it'll compete with the PC in any way.
Black Zarak wrote: |
Well, see the point here Murdar is not that you think PCs are better than Xbox, it's that while you are allowed to have any opinion you want, that doesn't necessarily give you the right to say "anybody who owns an Xbox is a fucking idiot because Xbox is teh suk, LOLZZZ!!!!11" |
My reactions aren't always correct, but can you blame me for being slightly angry at people who willingly contribute to the stuff I mentioned in my post earlier? I suppose it's more Microsoft's fault than anyone's, but the 360 really is a selfish console towards PC gaming. I understand that not everyone who buys one has it out for PC gaming.
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Knyte
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I'm a hardcore PC gamer, and I want a Xbox for a few games that are not available for PC. Such as Smackdown Vs Raw, Pro Football 2k8, and a few others. Especially if GTA IV doesn't get ported to PC.
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Char Aznable
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Well, I'm back from my week-long trip! Nice to see what I've come back to.
I actually don't mind the 360. If Microsoft hadn't fucked up the design so bad, I would've bought one already. But, it seems that every time I go to buy one, there's some new defect or technical glitch or error that crops up.
Also, I'm getting a new graphics card for my desktop PC. I'm upgrading from a 64mb to a 512, which will be a world of difference.
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Knyte
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Char Aznable wrote: |
Also, I'm getting a new graphics card for my desktop PC. I'm upgrading from a 64mb to a 512, which will be a world of difference. |
Unless your getting a FX5500 512Mb or a Radeon x1300 512Mb, or something.
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Char Aznable
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Mr. Bomberman
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I understand why you guys love PC games, but the reason that I prefer consoles to PC is that I'm too poor to buy x amount of stuff for $1000 or more every 1 or 2 years, and I'm retarded in the case of moddin' the thing. so, I end up with:
1. Playin' old emulated games
2. Freeware games
3. Old PC games from at least 3 years back
I could just torrent and pirate my computer games, but why torrent them if my computer is too weak to run 'em?
But, don't think I'm completely against PC games. I've been playing PC games since I was 8, when I was on Duke Nukem, HL, SimCopter, and Streets of SimCity.
I just drop a couple bucks on a system, and 5-6 or 7 years later, buy another one. Easy enough for me. And damn, the 360 isn't as bad as you guys make it out to be, and we're actually startin' to see hits here (and I can name 'em if you tell me to.) Though, I'm tired of all the FPSes.
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TheRoboSleuth
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Basically, exactly what bomberman said.
Blue dragon looks very appealing to me for some reason.
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Lady_Satine
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RobotGumshoe wrote: |
Blue dragon looks very appealing to me for some reason. |
Because it's got Toriyama's art style?
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mallman
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360 is picking up pretty nicely lately. Capcom is really getting a lot of good stuff out (Lost Planet, DMC4, etc.)
I thought that after a year it would be safe to buy a 360
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