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aika
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 06:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Must. Rant. About. College!

I don't know how many of you are in college, but it is nothing but a source of stress and aggrivation for me.

I'm trying to get TESOL-certified (TESOL = Teaching English to Students of Other Languages), which will allow me to teach English in Japan after I graduate. I only have two classes left to get certified, one being a Special Methods: ESL class they're offering this fall, that teaches you how to teach English to people learning English as a Second Language (ESL!). Kinda seems to be the fundamental course for this certificate, doesn't it?

Well, the professor for the class has a secretary, and this secretary have to be one of the most unprofessional people on the planet.

Alright, quick explanation. the Special Methods: ESL class is in the College of Education, and since I'm not a major in that college (I'm an International Studies major), I need to get special permission to take the class, but since I'm a TESOL candidate, all I have to do is see the professor and she gives permission.

Well, after talking to the professor, I go to her secretary and explain that I now have permission to take this course, so she logs into the database and sends me a little electronic permission thingie to take the class. "Now all you have to do is log on to your account and accept it and you'll be enrolled!" "Alright!" I think, assuming this will be easy. Nope! I get to a computer later and see no little electronic invitation to the class. I go back to the secretary later that day and say I never got one, so she logs in, sends the invitation again, then logs in as me and accepts it for me. I think, "great, all settled."

Silly me. I should have gone and checked. Instead, today in the mail, mom and I get a bill for some $630 for a summer class I'm apparently enrolled in. Mind you, I'm not taking any summer classes. We call the school and they tell us that I am in fact enrolled in a summer class, but if I log on to the database and drop it, we'll get a full refund, but I gotta hurry, cause today is the last day to drop the classes! I quickly log on, still confused as all hell as to what's going on, and I see I'm enrolled in some summer class called Special Methods: Spanish. From the College of Education.

The fucking secretary sent me an invitation for the wrong class AND enrolled me in it. If we hadn't caught it today, we would have had to pay the tuition. $630 for a class I'm not even taking because the secretary apparently can't read.

Sooo I fired off an email to the professor, explaining that her secretary enrolled me in the wrong class and nearly cost us $630, and could she please ask her secretary to send me an invitation to the ESL class. Again. For the third time. Please.

Christ.


[EDIT] TL;DR Version: I'm trying to take a class that requires special permission to enroll in, but the professor's secretary enrolled me in the wrong class, which nearly cost my mother and I some $630 in tuition. For a class I'm not even taking.
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Douche McCallister
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 06:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was actually interested in teaching english in Japan. The website's I checked never said anything about being certified, but that upon enrolling they would certify you and set you up with like 250,000 yen a year or something, which is less then I make now without a degree. I've always wanted to go to Japan....man that would be fun...


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aika
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 06:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Douche McCallister wrote:
I was actually interested in teaching english in Japan. The website's I checked never said anything about being certified, but that upon enrolling they would certify you and set you up with like 250,000 yen a year or something, which is less then I make now without a degree. I've always wanted to go to Japan....man that would be fun...

Well, it depends on how you wanna go. 8D If you wanna apply to JET or something, then yeah, you don't need to be certified in anything. However, I'm actually wanting to teach my own classes at private English schools, and to do that, most of those private English schools require TESOL-certification and a college degree. The great thing is that this is more of an actual, permanant job, not a contract with an organization like JET that kicks you out after three years. :/ Plus I've heard horror stories about how JETs get treated. Sad

Then again, this won't be a permanant job for me, either. Just something to pay my way so I can take Japanese classes in Japan. I've only taken a few years in college and I eventually want to be fluent so I can do some heavy-duty translation work.

My dad wants me to translate video games. HAH. Wouldn't that be a riot? Very Happy
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I love college....I miss college...
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Red_Mage wrote:
I miss college...


I sure don't
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I basically want to just go over there because of the atmosphere. Plus I'm a stud so all the asian girls will be all over me, or not, but thats a risk I'm willing to take. Something about Asians...drives me crazy...

I don't miss college only because it just let out, but do enjoy it. Some of the kids there make me feel like a genius.


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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Douche McCallister wrote:
I basically want to just go over there because of the atmosphere. Plus I'm a stud so all the asian girls will be all over me, or not, but thats a risk I'm willing to take. Something about Asians...drives me crazy...

I don't miss college only because it just let out, but do enjoy it. Some of the kids there make me feel like a genius.


OH GOD YELLOW FEVER, NO DON'T FALL FOR IT, SAVE YOURSELF!!!!!

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WHERE IS YOUR YELLOW FEVER NOW.

Joking, joking. 8DDD But I've had enough Japanese girls come through our college on the intensive English learning program and I can tell you that most of them are not sexy little things... most of them look like that nice picture right there.

On the other hand, a lot of the hot ones are sluts who come to America looking to bang an American dude, so you're in luck!
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Isn't JET, the program that the guy that wrote the Gaijin Smash blog was in?
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Douche McCallister
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

aika wrote:
Douche McCallister wrote:
I basically want to just go over there because of the atmosphere. Plus I'm a stud so all the asian girls will be all over me, or not, but thats a risk I'm willing to take. Something about Asians...drives me crazy...

I don't miss college only because it just let out, but do enjoy it. Some of the kids there make me feel like a genius.


OH GOD YELLOW FEVER, NO DON'T FALL FOR IT, SAVE YOURSELF!!!!!

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WHERE IS YOUR YELLOW FEVER NOW.

Joking, joking. 8DDD But I've had enough Japanese girls come through our college on the intensive English learning program and I can tell you that most of them are not sexy little things... most of them look like that nice picture right there.

On the other hand, a lot of the hot ones are sluts who come to America looking to bang an American dude, so you're in luck!

Embarrassed Sadly I find her oddly attractive...damn this Eyes and Lips thing...I'll have to teach myself to include teeth.


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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
Isn't JET, the program that the guy that wrote the Gaijin Smash blog was in?

Yep, Azrael. I even stole that pic of the chick from his site. 8D Unfortunately he quit JET and has a real job now.


As for YOU, Douche, I think the slanted asian eyes are indeed pretty but my god she is not attractive at all... in my opinion.

If you really like her, that cap is from a Street Fighter porn that you're welcome to go look up and watch or read about here.
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

aika wrote:
Knyte wrote:
Isn't JET, the program that the guy that wrote the Gaijin Smash blog was in?

Yep, Azrael. I even stole that pic of the chick from his site. 8D Unfortunately he quit JET and has a real job now.


As for YOU, Douche, I think the slanted asian eyes are indeed pretty but my god she is not attractive at all... in my opinion.

If you really like her, that cap is from a Street Fighter porn that you're welcome to go look up and watch or read about here.

Nothing a dentist can't fix... Embarrassed


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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Unfortunately when i was enrolled at asu it was known as a party school. Alot of kids who thought theyd still get babied and coddled came. One dude brought in a note from his teacher. And i still have a year or so left for a degree.

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Nothing a dentist can't fix... Embarrassed

or a friendly game of hockey.
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 07:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Douche McCallister wrote:
aika wrote:
Knyte wrote:
Isn't JET, the program that the guy that wrote the Gaijin Smash blog was in?

Yep, Azrael. I even stole that pic of the chick from his site. 8D Unfortunately he quit JET and has a real job now.


As for YOU, Douche, I think the slanted asian eyes are indeed pretty but my god she is not attractive at all... in my opinion.

If you really like her, that cap is from a Street Fighter porn that you're welcome to go look up and watch or read about here.

Nothing a dentist can't fix... Embarrassed


You ARE obsessed. 8D

I actually like Japanese dudes but I know that as a whole they're dense and clueless about pretty much everything related to the opposite sex. They believe rumors are fact. OH MY GOD I had a penpal who said him and all his friends believed the AVERAGE size of an American cock was 8 INCHES. They all swore that was true and I laughed so hard I almost lost consciousness. When I told him you guys are a teeeeeny bit smaller than that on average he was shocked and amazed.
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 08:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

aika wrote:
Douche McCallister wrote:
aika wrote:
Knyte wrote:
Isn't JET, the program that the guy that wrote the Gaijin Smash blog was in?

Yep, Azrael. I even stole that pic of the chick from his site. 8D Unfortunately he quit JET and has a real job now.


As for YOU, Douche, I think the slanted asian eyes are indeed pretty but my god she is not attractive at all... in my opinion.

If you really like her, that cap is from a Street Fighter porn that you're welcome to go look up and watch or read about here.

Nothing a dentist can't fix... Embarrassed


You ARE obsessed. 8D

I actually like Japanese dudes but I know that as a whole they're dense and clueless about pretty much everything related to the opposite sex. They believe rumors are fact. OH MY GOD I had a penpal who said him and all his friends believed the AVERAGE size of an American cock was 8 INCHES. They all swore that was true and I laughed so hard I almost lost consciousness. When I told him you guys are a teeeeeny bit smaller than that on average he was shocked and amazed.

This reminds me of that Southpark episode where the Pokemon Creators keep apologizing and pointing out the fact that American's are hung like Horses Laughing



 
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Douche McCallister
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 09:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout Boy wrote:
aika wrote:
Douche McCallister wrote:
aika wrote:
Knyte wrote:
Isn't JET, the program that the guy that wrote the Gaijin Smash blog was in?

Yep, Azrael. I even stole that pic of the chick from his site. 8D Unfortunately he quit JET and has a real job now.


As for YOU, Douche, I think the slanted asian eyes are indeed pretty but my god she is not attractive at all... in my opinion.

If you really like her, that cap is from a Street Fighter porn that you're welcome to go look up and watch or read about here.

Nothing a dentist can't fix... Embarrassed



You ARE obsessed. 8D

I actually like Japanese dudes but I know that as a whole they're dense and clueless about pretty much everything related to the opposite sex. They believe rumors are fact. OH MY GOD I had a penpal who said him and all his friends believed the AVERAGE size of an American cock was 8 INCHES. They all swore that was true and I laughed so hard I almost lost consciousness. When I told him you guys are a teeeeeny bit smaller than that on average he was shocked and amazed.

This reminds me of that Southpark episode where the Pokemon Creators keep apologizing and pointing out the fact that American's are hung like Horses Laughing

"Hey your doll said death to america!"
"Oh American Penis so big, We so small"
"Well I guess it is pretty big. You guys aren't so bad"
Chimpokomon was awesome. My favorite was Shoe.


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PostPosted: May 14 2008 09:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm pulling a 180 and going off the asian chick discussion and coming back the the college secratery comment.

Don't feel bad aika, I'm currently studying to teach chemistry (in the states) and my last year of college has confirmed that i will go made if i don't get on the track for a job in the next 2 years, i will go mad. In fact this last semester was brutal, really really brutal, my most time consuming semester yet, which is why i was apsent for so long.

Now, i have notice something about higher education:

As intelligence increases, common sense tends to decrease . . . like a lot. Now i'm not saying that people at my college are morons, but they do seem to have difficulty with simple tasks of everyday life like informing the students what COULD go wrong in experiment that takes a 4 weeks to get done, that way it saves time and heartache. And i don't know, cleaning the freaking waste bottle up after a MONTH's worth of labs.

But i get what you are saying, for the secretaries at my college, really piss me the fuck off. That's right, i'm resorting to cussing.

First off, i was looking in to get into the graduate school for chemistry to get at least a masters in chemistry. First i keep in tough with the graduate secratery, asking simple things like what do i have to do to get in, applications and deadlines for the application. In short, i emailed her a couple of times (keep in mind, more often then the undergrad secretery).

So it comes time for me to just try and see if i can get in and i send her an email asking if my online application went through (i even give her my student number to make things easier). I get an email back saying "i'm sorry, who are you. I cannot find you with your email and student number alone."

READER: Laughing
ME: Mad

This was about two weeks since i last emailed her and she had no problem figuring out who i was then. Plus, i'm using the email the college gave me. Then i get an email from the undergrad secretery (something about glassware breakage) and i send her an email asking her it's all about)

She emails me back knowing who i am (without my student number) and i emailed her less times then the graduate secretery.

I mean the student number for god sakes, it's the same school too, just in case you were curious. Then after a month i get an email from the graduate secretery saying i didn't get in the graduate program (which included my name mind you).

So i decided that i should get some straight answers from the adviser of the graduate program. So i email the secretary again, (with everything including my name in full) and asked her to schedule me in for a meeting with the graduate adviser.

This is what i got in return: "I'm sorry, but i do not keep the graduate adviser's schedule."

READER: ha HA! Kefka! ha HA! Kefka!
ME: Slobberknocker! Slobberknocker! Slobberknocker! Slobberknocker! Slobberknocker!

The message continued saying "I can schedule you for a meeting with me and maybe i can help you"

Yah . . . just like how GLaDOS from portal tried to help me. It was at this point i knew there would be no cheese at the end of this e-maze and decided to check into getting my teaching out of the way then try my luck for grad school later.

Oh and i had more incounters with secreteries this time . . . in a class she was teaching. And yes it was every bit as painful as you could imagine. I'd continue but i don't know what the limit of text a post can handle for i could write a novel. But i wont . . .

Although i am glad none of the secreteries tried to screw me out of money, that would be the straw that broke the camels back . . . or sanity may be more like it.


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PostPosted: May 14 2008 10:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Reaper,

It just so happens that I work IT support for Biology & Chemistry departments at a university.

Here is what I can tell you.

You are a tool.

Not in the sense that I am making fun of you. But you are simply an object that the professor needs in order to make their research work. The secretary gets treated like shit by the professor because tenure makes people into assholes.

So the secretary really only has one place to vent that frustration back. That would be at you.

Here is the good news. When you graduate with a Masters in Chemistry, your professor will write a kick ass letter of reference for you and you will get a job that pays well. Oh, it isn't because the professor likes you. It is because they are actually writing about themselves. If you look bad as their student, they look bad. That is not happening for them.

I should also note, that if you decide you want to be a professor, you will ultimately be an asshole too.


I'm like 87.5% confident that in my tired state, I am absolutely mostly sure that this is all perfectly sensibly right.



 
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PostPosted: May 14 2008 11:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
Reaper,

It just so happens that I work IT support for Biology & Chemistry departments at a university.

Here is what I can tell you.

You are a tool.

Not in the sense that I am making fun of you. But you are simply an object that the professor needs in order to make their research work. The secretary gets treated like shit by the professor because tenure makes people into assholes.

So the secretary really only has one place to vent that frustration back. That would be at you.

Here is the good news. When you graduate with a Masters in Chemistry, your professor will write a kick ass letter of reference for you and you will get a job that pays well. Oh, it isn't because the professor likes you. It is because they are actually writing about themselves. If you look bad as their student, they look bad. That is not happening for them.

I should also note, that if you decide you want to be a professor, you will ultimately be an asshole too.


I'm like 87.5% confident that in my tired state, I am absolutely mostly sure that this is all perfectly sensibly right.


Never really thought about it like that. To be honest though i hate people who are passive aggressive. If the secreteries really do stupid shit to vent their anger on students maybe they should invest time in counseling or kick boxing or hire Jack Nicholson as an Anger Manager. And i did consider getting a PhD but i'm not THAT into chemistry to go so far as to become an asshole. Plus my stamina is fading too. And it is obvious that the professors care more for their research than actually teaching. Besides I focused more on how they could have made their lesson plans better (or even, ZOMG have a lesson plan) so i'll just stick to teaching chemistry at a high school or community college.


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PostPosted: May 15 2008 10:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

Wow yes, I know your pain with scheduling. o.o Even better when the advisors don't know anything about the classes they're signing you up for.

During my first year of college:

Me: So what's this Food Science class?
Advisor Lady: Oh, it's like a nutrition class. You learn about proper eating and health.
Me: Oh, sounds useful.

Turns out it really WAS a science class, where we had to study how the body breaks down food and the chemical reactions and stuff. I suck at science so I did badly with that, not to mention we had test questions like "How many maggot eggs can be found in two ounces of ketchup?" I just stopped going to that class after that and I failed it. Surprise. o.o I really should take it again to raise my GPA and get rid of the F but dude, with stuff like that, ignorance really is bliss. Shocked


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PostPosted: May 15 2008 11:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

aika wrote:
Wow yes, I know your pain with scheduling. o.o Even better when the advisors don't know anything about the classes they're signing you up for.

During my first year of college:

Me: So what's this Food Science class?
Advisor Lady: Oh, it's like a nutrition class. You learn about proper eating and health.
Me: Oh, sounds useful.

Turns out it really WAS a science class, where we had to study how the body breaks down food and the chemical reactions and stuff. I suck at science so I did badly with that, not to mention we had test questions like "How many maggot eggs can be found in two ounces of ketchup?" I just stopped going to that class after that and I failed it. Surprise. o.o I really should take it again to raise my GPA and get rid of the F but dude, with stuff like that, ignorance really is bliss. Shocked


"How many maggot eggs can be found in two ounces of ketchup?" Rolling Eyes you see it's retarded questions like that that make college more of a pain in the ass then it really should be. I know and you know for a fact that if you ask the professor those same retarded questions, they would be just as lost because their research has eaten their brain. They mindlessly make these test without any regard to the whether it's relevant and they certainly are not going to bather to explain how it is.

I never got an F because i know when to bail when the ship is sinking. I took a Physical chemistry 1 class (which is like physics and chemistry had a bastard love child) and managed to pass . . . barely. The professor was okay, he gave us homeworks to do but the test felt unorganized and he seemed to get high off of doing nothing but calculus during lecture, which really wasn't relevant to the test.

The P-Chem 2 class i took this passed semester i unfortunately had to drop it. The professor's lectures were absolute garbage, the powerpoints and tests didn't even go hand in hand. His powerpoints were dumbed down for us but they were way too simple and the tests were just mind crushing.

I went to his office hours one time to ask about the homework i worked on during spring break, he confessed two things to me that sealed the deal that i should bail:

1) I asked him if my way going about 4 of the questions (out of 7) was good enough. He spent five minutes looking at these questions and said to me: "Oh I'm not going over this stuff and it won't be on the test" So basically he confessed to me that more then half of the homework HE assigned us was pointless.

2) We're using the same book as P-chem 1 and I ask my professor why his notation for a diagram is different in the book and his notes. He then looks at me and say "I don't like the book, i don't use it much and i'm only using it because p-chem 1 is using it" So bascilly he confessed that the book was worthless too. Oh but i thank him for saving me a buck. Rolling Eyes

I asked around how a guy like him could have gotten tenure and the universal answer was "he did a lot of research and got a lot of grant money."

P-chem is bad enough but when you have a professor leaving you in the dark, it's close to impossible. Oh people did get good grades in the class but these were the super smart kids who had to study p-chem day and night.

And the icing on the shit cake, my chemistry adviser (sore about me droping the class) says in order for me to get my bachelors, i had to either complete both p-chem 1 and 2 OR take the 'easier' life sciences p-chem. So basiclly, my adviser just confessed to me that p-chem 1 was meaningless. I hate p-chem, i'm taking the 'easier' p-chem class next semester and hopefully be done with p-chem. The silver lining in this is when Igo for a masters I only need to take a few graduate classes and i can avoid p-chem altogether.

I have more shit to say about college because I've had it build up for months now. but i'll stop for now, i need to catch my breath. Next time, Reeper rants about MF Physics!!!!!!


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PostPosted: May 17 2008 06:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Douche McCallister wrote:
I was actually interested in teaching english in Japan. The website's I checked never said anything about being certified, but that upon enrolling they would certify you and set you up with like 250,000 yen a year or something, which is less then I make now without a degree. I've always wanted to go to Japan....man that would be fun...

i must've missed this thread when it debuted.

anyhow, i was planning to volunteer international to teach english as well over there in China though. my friend found a website for an organization that would take you to china, and set you up at a college or home, and give you a stipend so you can live over there and teach english. no certification required. all you had to do was pay your plane ticket and after 10 months they would reimburse you your plane ticket. so you wouldnt make any money except $1800 or so after a year, but its something i really want to do.

volunteer to teach english, or help out at some hospital, or build houses or whatever. unfortunately i have other responsibilities i cannot neglect that are delaying that trip. so, hopefully i can do something soon to free me from those responsibilities.

and regarding college, i only took one semester cause my mom kept on bugging me to go. so, in order to appease her i took one semester of college and that was it. i dont think i even passed since i turned in only half my work. but whatev.


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College was the best this to ever happen to me. You can read here about my journey. I really hope that you will like it and will give your feedback to me.
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