@om*d wrote:

I am surprised no one mentioned being forced to play online all the time. You will probably buy a new game in the future and not be able to play at all without registering it online first or patching it right from the get-go.

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Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once. Once you use it, that game will then be linked to your Xbox Live account. "It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

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“Killer Instinct” for Xbox One will be free to download with one free playable character available. Additional characters will be available for purchase starting at $4.99 / £3.99 / €4.99 each. Players can also purchase special discounted character packages: Combo Breaker Pack –– Save 50 percent instantly by purchasing the Combo Breaker pack, Combo Breaker Pack Includes - The first 8 characters (6 at launch, plus 2 characters before their official post-launch release) for $19.99 / £16.99 / €19.99. Ultra Edition – The Ultra Edition delivers the best value for “Killer Instinct” fans. Available for $39.99 / £34.99 / €39.99, The Ultra Edition includes: - The first 8 characters (6 at launch, plus 2 characters before their official post-launch release) - Character accessory packs - Character costumes - The original “Killer Instinct” arcade game

Source: http://news.xbox.com/2013/08/gamescom-ki

Originally Posted by Dacvak

"Wow. What a shitty structure. Will no longer be buying this, I fucking hate these piece-by-piece payment structures. Get your mobile business out of my consoles, dammit."

Originally Posted by Teletraan1

"I hope they start releasing fighting games with 1 fighter so it will be so balanced that each round ends in a stalemate. That one fighter should also cost $19.99 and come with one stage. They could offer extra moves, costumes and stages as DLC so if you really want to beat your bros online while looking good in exotic locals you got to buy all the DLC rather than be a fighting game poor. This DLC should be exclusive to one console for 6 months as well but that goes without saying. Pre-Order finishers would also be a great idea. Different stores get different finishing moves so you can pre-order from all the stores to get all the moves. The game should also ship with only a 48k file on the disc, you should have to log into some site and fill out a lengthy form with a controller to register your game, apply all your pre-order codes and download the game. It all sounds so perfect as long as its on my console of choice."

It's about the cut-up distribution of game code. It's about the incompetence and bad overriding the good and worthy. It's about M$ and the rest of the cockroaches making incomplete games a standard practice. A move to lower standards from launch.

This is the lowest point for fighting games. It's not about whether any individual is getting a "good deal".

Soon our game manuals will be filled with fine print and hidden charge costs.

Even the demo is pathetic and a bad-sign of what to expect from this game. The smallest selection of characters in a demo I've played was in Soul Calibur 2 on GC demo where there was Cassandra and Nightmare to choose from to fight a friend. Those two characters are drastically different from one another , so viva la difference. I don't know any demo for a fighting game this generation that gives you 1 character to choose from in a demo. KoF 13 had at least 10 from what I played.

KI is not a new franchise. It should have more characters than this. They are subtracting characters from the roster. I've never seen this thing happen before. This isn't even an effort to develop a primarily new cast of characters to put in the game like 3rd Strike. That would be something that would require much more time and energy.

There are worse examples of dlc but not in regards to the fighting game genre. But even if it wasn't the worse it wouldn't be appetizing. Look at the language you're employing when discussing this "granted", "it's only, but...", "it's only...", "there are worse..."

Like I wrote the money is not the issue to me and I doubt it is to most people who are shelling out money for $500 entertainment products.

I think it'll have bad impact on the fighting genre. I was disgusted enough with Capcom selling people access to content that was already contained in the disc, but I think this selection of a mere 6 fighters and we'll give you 2 more when we get around to it is much worse. It's clearly a rushed product for launch that is making compromises that diminish the overall experience. Of course we see that this fighting game is not launched in Japan arcades where the standard is higher than here in the States.

I don't mind collector's editions but I don't like digital download distribution and extra content that is really just missing content. Give people a physical game with everything in it where you can stand behind its quality for a reasonable period of time.

I'm saying the game is doing a disservice to fans. It's like turning in a 3 page report and telling the teacher you'll meet the assigned 5 pages in another week or so. It's unprofessional.

'JoJo PS3's campaign is basically a Japanese f2p phone game at full retail price'

Cbajd5 wrote:

I don't, but it's related to the game's Campaign Mode. Basically you have a battery with 10 bars that refills one bar every 5 minutes while in Campaign Mode or every 20 minutes outside of it. You spend one bare for every fight you play, and there's bosses to beat that require multiple fights and/or using more bars of energy so they take more damage. There's also random events, some that use energy too. This mode needs to be played to unlock alt costumes/colors/quotes/poses and the bosses hold most if them. You can buy battery refills and consumable special items to find bosses more easily through the PSN.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=675221

maabus1999 wrote:

Well that is the reason for it getting panned in the user reviews. Still, this is a scary development in game history, especially with 500K sales opening week in Japan. That could EASILY be 1 million in the US if pulled off right.

RedNumberFive wrote:

Wow, they beat EA to the punch!

xk0sm0sx wrote:

What I've been reading is while campaign mode and the lazy story mode are part of the problems, the major point people are making fun of (and angry) are how bad the balance of the combo system is. The patch took out a lot of the infinites by making characters fall down faster, affecting all other working combos prior as well. There was even a character (Wamuu) who's Super will not follow through on an enemy because the enemy falls down too fast. A Blazblue developer had even complained about how someone shouldn't attempt to balance a fighting game overnight. (Never specifying who lol.) Basically the bad word of mouth is due to all these videos showing how bad the fighting system is as til now, allowing everyone to mock at it. Wamuu video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgSj0DXBXE8 (Videos shows characters able to counter despite being hit by a Super)

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Wii Sports is coming back as a series of HD re-makes, one or two sports at a time, each upgraded from their presentation in the 2006 Wii launch game with the addition of online play. The first two sports, tennis and bowling, will be released on November 7 for download, with boxing, baseball and golf to follow.P Each sport can be bought for $9.99, meaning that the whole thing will eventually be purchasable for $49.95.P You can buy one of them, five of them or—this is the most creative part of it—none of them and simply spend $1.99 on any day that you want to play them. You'll have access for 24 hours. This is, as far as I know, the first time Nintendo has ever offered their games for what amounts to a $2 rental. Insanity? We're being positive here. Let's call it inspired.

source: http://kotaku.com/lets-analyze-this-weeks-weirdest-nintendo-news-in-a-p-1357911167

I don't think this is a bad policy. While HD ports make companies lazily cash-in on their back catalogue, the game quality most of the time improves. It does put rental services in the coffin if Nintendo distributes their games through their own online digital store. I only liked Wii Tennis, so paying $10 for that mini-game is better than buying it with other crap in it. Maybe they could turn it into a full-game (flesh it out) and improve or tweak the other crappy mini-games too. Just a thought. Nintendo at least has high standards for remakes/releases.

I'll be expecting an HD port of Wii Tanks as well, Nintendo.