Cameron wrote:

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote: What pisses me of about newer Castlevania games, though i still think most of them are pretty good overall, is tha anime-esque road they tend to take. This doesn't fit the atmosphere of Castlevania. Castlevania is about being alone and standing against the hordes of evil. It's not about a bunch of overstylized anime characters that get drawn toghter by a trashy plot that no one cares for. That is also why i liked Lords of Shdaows. I mean, it is different from the original Castlevania games (wich are superior in terms of atmosphere to ANY new one) but at least it is fucking dark and you feel fucking lonely. I also liked the narration, it really got me in the mood. Like i was playing an old forgotten story that unfolds now in front of me. Only the first two DS games have an anime-ish art style (I'm not going to bother mentioning Judgement because it blows). And the plots in Castlevania games are cheesy for the most part, but I definitely care for them. .

Not true. They all have anime-esque tendencys. Order of Ecclesia has this Storyline about the Order and how they try to stop Dracula, wich sucked. Dracula shows up only for the last fight and doesn't even play a that great part in the story. Great storyline for a Castlevania game.

Dawn of Sorrow was basically in all elements like an anime. Artworks, characters, story. I liked the game because i like Metroidvania games but that's about it. I didn't feel like playing Castlevania.

Portrait of Ruin uses again anime artworks. I can't speak about the story or anything because i never bothered to play it. If they make it Co-Op to can make it even a Kart-Racing game. I didn't care anymore for this one.

It's also has been a while since i played them but i remember the GBA Games having a ridicolous out of place storyline with Dracula's ghost searching for a vessel and Gendo Arikado is Alucard for some reason. I don't no. A mess if you ask me.

You are also forgetting the N64 Castlevania games. You play as a blue haired magical girl that throws balls of light at the enemys. How more anime has it got to be for you to see that it derived from the original style we all loved and cared for.

And Judgement counts too. It has the Castlevania name on it so it represents the series.

Cameron wrote:

I think I can understand the art style you're referring to (like the weird, gaunt character portraits in the status screen of every game, for example). While I do agree with you in that I don't particularly like it either, it's had that same art style since Symphony of the Night, so I think it's a little late to start complaining about it.

Too late to argue about? I don't get your way of thinking, honestly.

Cameron wrote:

I liked it. And again, take out the part about the order and this is describing a good 75% of the Castlevania games out there. This isn't an attribute exclusive to the newer games.

If i take out the part with the Order it's about a girl with no memorys running around at random places finding mighty runes that she can't use and ends up getting killed by Dracula. That describes 75% of all Castlevania games?

Cameron wrote:

It sounds to me like you hate every Castlevania from Symphony of the Night onward, which, different strokes, but still.

Well i love SotN an liked every DS or Gameboy Advance Castlevania i played. I'm complaining about Details and not the whole. But you don't seem to get my point at all.

Cameron wrote:

I'm not sure how to respond to this, either than the fact that you're skimming over plot points that actually make sense in context for the sake of trying to make your argument seem rooted in facts. And yeah, Castlevania games generally don't have the most profound of plots, but they aren't incoherent babble either. The entire series has a pretty cool continuity and lore that keeps me intrigued enough to continue playing new installments (well, at least until Lords of Shadow retconned literally everything). Not to mention the fact that you're bashing a game that you admit you haven't even played.

You did not try to bash me? Well not a good attempt Cameron. Anyways, i was just trying to explain what kind of clusterfuck the series became. In my oppinion the storys of the newer games are just unneccessary, lack in quality and make the game more complicated than it should be. I skip throught the dialogues and try not to care for them. Wich doesn't make me really happy.

And sure i bash a game i haven't played, i can look at it and read about it. I don't know what your problem is with that, because i'm certain you are doing that too. Everybody does that. You critize my oppinion even you don't even nearly understand it.

Cameron wrote:

Well. I will just say nothing to this, except that you argue like a person that has no oppinion.

Cameron wrote:

I don't count Judgement in the same vein that most people generally don't count Resident Evil: Survivor as a representative of that respective series.

What ever floats your boat.

Cameron wrote:

I'm not trying to bash your opinion, honestly, but it's just kind of annoying how you're complaining about elements of "newer" Castlevania games that've been present for over fifteen years.

That doesn't change the fact that i feel like they are not fitting into what Castlevania in my oppinion is and should be. Again, not an argument to me.

Cameron wrote:

Also, exactly what @om*d said. Thank you.

If i take atmojackeds comment and relate it to your comment, your arguments become a inconsisted mess. So again. Hide behind the oppinion of others if you can't make a point on your own. It just makes you seem unreliable and silly.

So here we go. I will finally say that i defended my oppinion. Cameron started taking it to a stupid and more offensive level, with ridiculing my oppinion. I did not do that to him in the first place. I just hate it sometimes that you can't say your oppinion in this forum without knowing that somebody will come along and critize the shit out of because you did so. I often don't even write my oppinion down because of this.

I don't know what i should say to this. I just wanted to say my oppinion on Castlevania. I love the whole franchise, enjoyed every game, but some more than others. That's basically what i wanted to say. Maybr i'm a little picky because i dislike Co-op games but it just felt silly to me. I feel more serious and immersed into the atmosphere when it's single player and i think it would be cool if they made a Castlevania game that feels like playing one of the classic ones (meaning Castlevania 1-4 basically).

I also see that i communicate my oppinions in a way that could be seen as offensive. I have to admit, i like to rant, i actually love it and this can lead to misunderstandings because that lies in the nature of ranting. I didn't speak to any of you guys though.

You would leave me for a younger one anyways.

Cameron wrote:

In retrospect I can see that I went way, way overboard with my Castlevania fanaticism. And to think I'm constantly telling other people to cool their jets. Sorry, Ear. Don't let my occasional blindness towards being open-minded with the opinions of others discourage you from posting your thoughts.

You have your oppinion on Castlevania and i got mine. There is nothing wrong with that. No biggie, alright?

And telling people to calm down isn't too bad of an idea in this forum. I also tend to get agitated quickly sometimes.

He was probably mostly referring to me and Cameron.

I'm looking forward to Dragon's Crown for the PS3. It's like the follow up game to Odin's Sphere wich basically ripped off Legend Of Mana, wich is one of my favorite games. It has those lovely cartoon graphics, multi-class-system, multiplayer, multivitamins. Looks pretty good to me.