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Aurora shooting victims suing theater


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PostPosted: Sep 22 2012 11:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/21/14016516-three-aurora-theater-shooting-victims-suing-cinemark-theater-to-reopen-in-2013?lite

I'm not sure how I feel about this. It's a theater, it shouldn't be the kind of place where you need metal detectors and guards at every door. The article suggests the shooters pretty much just walked in and I know in my experience back doors and stuff are usually unlocked for deliveries and such, so I guess it is possible failure on the theater's part
I don't know if it's different in big cities, but when I've been to SLC and stuff I've never seen a security guard or anything in a theater sans people brawling



 
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PostPosted: Sep 22 2012 12:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Okay it just seems the blame game is being played.

It's totally unrealistic for a cinema to have security and weapon spot checking. It seems like they just want someone to blame - that person is the killer. It has nothing to do with the cinema.

EDIT: I didn't really follow this story so it's unclear to me what happened. If the gunman walked in like a normal person then i say it's unrealistic to expect a person to be searched for weapons.

However if the gunman broke into the cinema through a backdoor or whatever then okay it is the cinemas fault. However if this didn't happen then they aren't in the wrong.
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PostPosted: Sep 22 2012 01:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Sep 22 2012 01:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Alow, I think it could be argued that no matter what door they came through there's no way check for a weapon regardless.
And Fighter Sad I saw you responded and I was hoping for an awesome response.



 
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PostPosted: Sep 22 2012 01:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think that this is a frivolous lawsuit. I think it's ridiculous that, backdoor locked or not, the theater should be held accountable for a lone gunman coming in and shooting the place. That's not what people ever expect to happen in a theater and it shouldn't be something they should be held accountable. Some lawyer is looking for a chance to cash in, that's why everyone hates them.

I have a feeling that just about everyone here's going to be on the same page, though.
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PostPosted: Sep 22 2012 02:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's not "frivolous" (that's an actual legal term that means a suit is completely without grounds or merit), but there's no real chance of this being won. They would have to prove not only that the theater didn't take significant measures to protect the patrons, but that they would be expected to take such measures in the first place. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that.

I also don't think this is a cash grab, really, at least not a greedy one. People were injured, they deserve compensation, and the cinema is the only entity involved that can reasonably give it (the gunman is likely broke). I think they're blameless in this, but I can see them or their insurance company cutting a quick check out of the goodness of their hearts (or to make them go away).
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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 12:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

They could just... you know...sue the fuckface who shot at them.


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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 12:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JRA wrote:
They could just... you know...sue the fuckface who shot at them.

That's not how it works.


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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 01:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JoshWoodzy wrote:
JRA wrote:
They could just... you know...sue the fuckface who shot at them.

That's not how it works.

Actually, that's not entirely true, if I recall correctly. Since the state is trying the guy who shot up the theater in criminal court, the families could still take him to civil court. Homicide is criminal. They could sue him for battery, but if he has no money, they really can't get anything. Also, since I don't actually see him winning his trial, I doubt the families will be able to take him to civil court anyway, with him being in jail or fried.
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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 01:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think they should sue Christopher Nolan for making a movie people wanted to go see at midnight.


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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 01:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JoshWoodzy wrote:
JRA wrote:
They could just... you know...sue the fuckface who shot at them.

That's not how it works.

They did it with OJ.
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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 03:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, the fuckface is what lawyers call (ironically, I'm sure) "judgement-proof". He can be sued, and yes, he'd likely lose. But he's broke. Can't get money out of someone who has none.
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PostPosted: Sep 24 2012 05:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
I think they should sue Christopher Nolan for making a movie people wanted to go see at midnight.

If he has an ounce of dignity in him, he'll never make a Batman movie ever again and probably make sure no one else does either.


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