I don't know how you can complain about getting more battery life. Shit I'd take another hour and a half on my DS Lite so I didn't have to sit right next to an outlet all the time waiting for it to be like, "Your fucking battery is dead again! You made it a whole 2 hours this time!" It is actually fairly impressive that they can squeeze another hour and a half out of a battery that size while running a larger screen and playing graphically intensive games. Certainly doing better than any cell phone company is doing with smart phones and battery life.
Well, that is mostly right, but you miss the point on what I was saying.
Basically, I think that while getting a better battery is nice, it still isn't enough of an improvement. Despite gaining 1.5 hours, it's still very behind all the other devices that I actually use frequently while away from an outlet for a significant amount of time (iPhone, iPad, laptop). Therefor, I don't see how it would be worth US$199 (~A$299), especially when you count the fact that I brought my 3DS before the massive price reduction.
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do you play your 3DS for 4 hours straight while away from an... ah who cares?! you'll just keep whining about it anyhow
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Jun 26 2012 05:30 pm
I do.
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Jun 26 2012 06:30 pm
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do you play your 3DS for 4 hours straight while away from an... ah who cares?! you'll just keep whining about it anyhow
I don't, but the thing still manages to run out of battery power. And I don't think I have ever gotten four hours of gameplay out of the battery. Usually, it can get through a day of regular use, but forget to charge it overnight and I am fucked the next if I want to do anything on it for more than ten minutes.
Also, if I wanted to fix the 3DS's battery issue, I can just get that battery expansion thingy, which will give me better battery life than the 3DS XL for much less money.
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Jun 26 2012 07:08 pm
Sorry, I don't usually post stuff like this, but...
I think Satire has a point. Why buy a new 3DS for an extra hour and a half of battery if you can just buy a battery extension?
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Jun 26 2012 07:18 pm
Are you serious?
He's acting like the XL costs $200 because it has a better battery. What you're missing is the biggest point of the XL model...the screen size. The battery life is just a nice benefit. And Satire rambling on and on and on about how /he/ won't be getting this...who fucking cares? Why do we need multiple posts from someone saying they won't be getting this for this reason, and that reason? Great, don't. Now move on.
Does he not realize that not everyone has a 3DS? Does he not realize that now people will have an option to buy a 3DS with a bigger screen than the original? Does he not realize that he isn't the only person the planet?
Sheesh, I didn't read ALL his posts, just the one you posted the video reply to for some context.
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Yeah, that video was in reply to about half of his posts over the last two years, actually. I thought quoting them all would cause a crash on this forum that we haven't seen since the Charles Barkley Wiki Page Incident of 2010.
He's acting like the XL costs $200 because it has a better battery. What you're missing is the biggest point of the XL model...the screen size. The battery life is just a nice benefit. And Satire rambling on and on and on about how /he/ won't be getting this...who fucking cares? Why do we need multiple posts from someone saying they won't be getting this for this reason, and that reason? Great, don't. Now move on.
Does he not realize that not everyone has a 3DS? Does he not realize that now people will have an option to buy a 3DS with a bigger screen than the original? Does he not realize that he isn't the only person the planet?
Didn't you start this with your initial "I'm sure some dumbass like satire will still have a problem with this" comment?
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Jun 26 2012 08:41 pm
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Klimbatize wrote:
Are you serious?
He's acting like the XL costs $200 because it has a better battery. What you're missing is the biggest point of the XL model...the screen size. The battery life is just a nice benefit. And Satire rambling on and on and on about how /he/ won't be getting this...who fucking cares? Why do we need multiple posts from someone saying they won't be getting this for this reason, and that reason? Great, don't. Now move on.
Does he not realize that not everyone has a 3DS? Does he not realize that now people will have an option to buy a 3DS with a bigger screen than the original? Does he not realize that he isn't the only person the planet?
Didn't you start this with your initial "I'm sure some dumbass like satire will still have a problem with this" comment?
If by "start" you mean "predict", then yes. Though I don't think Satire is a dumbass.
Yeah, that video was in reply to about half of his posts over the last two years, actually. I thought quoting them all would cause a crash on this forum that we haven't seen since the Charles Barkley Wiki Page Incident of 2010.
Good fucking memories.
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Jun 27 2012 04:42 am
Klimbatize wrote:
Are you serious?
He's acting like the XL costs $200 because it has a better battery. What you're missing is the biggest point of the XL model...the screen size.
As I had mentioned before, the screen size increase is also something I find bad, due to screen resolutions likely not changing. Also, before anyone thinks that I expect Nintendo to add a screen much like Apple's "Retina" Display, no, I do not. I just would like to see the resolution bumped up a bit if much bigger screens are going to be brought into play, for the reason I stressed before.
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Mr. Satire wrote:
Klimbatize wrote:
Are you serious?
He's acting like the XL costs $200 because it has a better battery. What you're missing is the biggest point of the XL model...the screen size.
As I had mentioned before, the screen size increase is also something I find bad, due to screen resolutions likely not changing. Also, before anyone thinks that I expect Nintendo to add a screen much like Apple's "Retina" Display, no, I do not. I just would like to see the resolution bumped up a bit if much bigger screens are going to be brought into play, for the reason I stressed before.
Let's be real. Even if the resolution did improve would you really get your parents to buy you an XL?
If you own a 3DS already it's a waste of money. All you are getting is a bigger screen and more battery power and the only way i find it any way a sensible purchase if you own one is if you have the biggest fucking hands on earth and it feels like you are breaking it apart when you hold it.
Personally i won't bother because my hands aren't that big and i think the 3DS is already pretty cheapily made and therefore wouldn't buy another and also cause i just don't need one.
It was about that time of year for Nintendo for to shove out a new version like they always predictably do and it's a bit of a con really.
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Oddly enough, Crave UK reports that Nintendo is going to be selling the 3DS XL in Europe with no charger. The company says it's aiming to keep the price down and reasons that "so many fans already own a previous handheld." A charger will be available to purchase separately
So you can't even use your first 3DS charger because it won't fit the XL so therefore it is not fucking keeping the price down if you need it for the system to fucking work, so everyone will have to buy one anyway.
It's clearly a con in that respect.
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Oddly enough, Crave UK reports that Nintendo is going to be selling the 3DS XL in Europe with no charger. The company says it's aiming to keep the price down and reasons that "so many fans already own a previous handheld." A charger will be available to purchase separately
So you can't even use your first 3DS charger because it won't fit the XL so therefore it is not fucking keeping the price down if you need it for the system to fucking work, so everyone will have to buy one anyway.
It's clearly a con in that respect.
The 3DS charger cable will fit in the 3DS XL. If you already own a 3DS, you won't need a charger if you buy a 3DS XL. This keeps the price down for people who already own one. Not a con.
the charger will fit into the 3DS XL. the 3DS XL wont fit on to the charging cradle though. but who cares? as long as you can charge it, youre good to go
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Jun 27 2012 07:42 pm
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Okay, in that case just buy another one.
Either way, it's not this huge con. It's shaving $10 off the retail price, and giving people to buy it as an add-on if they need it.
Based on Alow's reaction, I think he misread the quote he quoted.
Well $10 isn't a huge amount in the grand scheme of the price of the whole system not to include it.
Also what if the XL is your first 3DS? In that respect it's not an addon. It's totally essential for the usage of it unless you are going to magic electricity into it.
My point is it's just pointless to leave it off, it saves a small amount of money and if its your first 3ds you will need one anyway and if you already own one, is it really that big a deal of owning another charger?
@username I was always lead to believe that you had to use the cradle with it to charge. I've never tried it without it so maybe that is the case.
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Mr. Satire wrote:
Klimbatize wrote:
Are you serious?
He's acting like the XL costs $200 because it has a better battery. What you're missing is the biggest point of the XL model...the screen size.
As I had mentioned before, the screen size increase is also something I find bad, due to screen resolutions likely not changing. Also, before anyone thinks that I expect Nintendo to add a screen much like Apple's "Retina" Display, no, I do not. I just would like to see the resolution bumped up a bit if much bigger screens are going to be brought into play, for the reason I stressed before.
Yea, except I have read nothing but pretty good things about the XL. I still probably won't get one, but from what I have read, it sounds pretty slick.
It's been less than a week since we first clapped eyes on 3DS XL, and there have been doubts for some about the potential positives of the system. From a technical perspective one concern has been the graphical fidelity of the original resolution on a bigger screen, alongside general curiosity about how the system feels to play.
As reported by Kotaku, a lucky French gaming site has had an opportunity to try out the handheld and post a video in the process. Assuming that the (google) translations are accurate, it's said that the bigger top screen screen has a superior viewing angle, with comments that the 3D effect appears to be more natural and effective. The impressions say that the visuals themselves hold up and potentially look better than on the original model, possibly due to some filtering effects. As for the curved design, it's argued that this makes the system more comfortable to hold.
Huge screen
Better viewing angle
3D effect looks better/more effective/more natural
2D mode looks better than regular 3DS
Image looks better/softer (they assume there might be some filter but not sure)
The grip (round corners) fit nicely
Unit fits better in hands (they wonder if it should've been the main design in first place)
Unit is lighter than they expected
There's a coat in the unit (not fully matte) that gives it a "deluxe plastic imitating metal" look
Shit, who knows, I may get one down the line, but one of my biggest qualms would be whether or not my streetpass shit would transfer over lol.
My point is it's just pointless to leave it off, it saves a small amount of money and if its your first 3ds you will need one anyway and if you already own one, is it really that big a deal of owning another charger?
And my point was you called it a con when Nintendo will actually save one group of people money, while not adding to the cost of anyone else. I assumed when you call it a "con" you meant screwing people out of money. The opposite is happening. It just seems like a silly thing to get too upset about.
Do I think it's weird not to have a charger included? Yeah, I do. But in the end it's not set up to scam people out of money or anything; it's to save a few dollars on the price point.
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Shit, who knows, I may get one down the line, but one of my biggest qualms would be whether or not my streetpass shit would transfer over lol.
It just seems like a silly thing to get too upset about.
No one is upset about this here.
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I assumed when you call it a "con" you meant screwing people out of money.
No, i mean con as "An instance of deceiving or tricking someone". Not screwing people out of money.
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And my point was you called it a con when Nintendo will actually save one group of people money, while not adding to the cost of anyone else. I assumed when you call it a "con" you meant screwing people out of money. The opposite is happening. It just seems like a silly thing to get too upset about.
This isn't what i am saying. What i am saying is that they are stating that it will be a saving but for some people it won't be. In that respect it is deceiving.
It would be like me selling a TV and the cable for it separate. I then claim that it's a saving for people. Some people have the cable for that TV already so they can use it fine, it is a saving for them because they have the cable.
However other people will never have owned this tv so therefore they must buy the cable. Therefore the offer isn't a saving at all for those people.
I am stating that the advertisement that it is a saving is in fact incorrect or false advertising because you cannot be saving money if you need to buy both components the charger and the 3DS. It's a saving for previous owners and not new customers.
I may you a nice audio response, it may be clearer.
