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(Dumb) question about the Kill Bill movies


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Ice2SeeYou
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PostPosted: Dec 22 2011 10:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Was Bill (David Carradine) the father of Uma Thurman's baby? Or was it the guy she was going to marry in Texas?

The little girl calls Bill "daddy" toward the end of Volume 2, but I was never clear if he was actually her father, or if she just called him that because he essentially adopted her.


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aika
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PostPosted: Dec 22 2011 10:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm pretty sure she found out she was pregnant before she met the guy in Texas. The baby was Bill's. I was pretty sure she even tells him that before he shoots her in the church.


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Dec 22 2011 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, that's what she says to him before he "kills" her; "Bill, it's yours..." BLAM!


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Ice2SeeYou
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PostPosted: Dec 22 2011 11:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmm.....interesting. For some reason I've never understood what she said at that moment.


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PostPosted: Dec 23 2011 04:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yep, it's his.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Dec 23 2011 05:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I still don't understand why she kills Bill. I mean, she was a total bitch to him in the first place. And when she finally tracks him down, he's a pretty nice guy. They chat, and then she kills him.
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PostPosted: Dec 24 2011 04:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
I still don't understand why she kills Bill. I mean, she was a total bitch to him in the first place. And when she finally tracks him down, he's a pretty nice guy. They chat, and then she kills him.

eh, women


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slapolakinkaido
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PostPosted: Dec 24 2011 04:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

True, she should have 'almost killed him' then left him for dead.


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 12:49 am Reply with quote Back to top

After impregnating him first.


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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 12:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well, seriously. He was in love with her, she find out she's pregnant, and she disappears, leaving him to think she's dead. He's heartbroken, then he finds out she's not dead, and his heartbreak turns to rage. That is completely reasonable.
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 01:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

This is where sideways comes in to tell us that as a registered sex offender, polygamist, and pedophile, it is perfectly acceptable to shoot your pregnant presumed dead lover at her marriage to another man.


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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 06:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'd say it is perfectly acceptable. If someone I loved faked their own death, then by the time I tracked them down, they were pregnant and marrying someone else, I'd shoot them. No question. It's what they fucking deserve. I have absolutely NO sympathy for Beatrix at all.

"Oh boo hoo, they stole my baby, destroyed my womb, and left me for dead!"

Yeah, cuz you deserved it.
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 02:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Well, seriously...

I know you're just being stupid to be funny, but after three posts where you think you're making solid points to back up this retarded point of view and you ask the question "Why does she kill him?" as if you've discovered some amazing logical flaw in the film and now this "Well, seriously..." line, you finally got me to respond.

He fucking killed her fiance, all his family and friends (which, since she didn't have any of her own, were the only people she was close to) and even the minister who was going to perform the ceremony. Oh, and Samuel L. Jackson.

He puts her in a coma which forces her to miss out on her child's first four years of life. She was raped while in a coma multiple times, which she was aware of. He even sent an assassin after her when he found out she was alive, but called it off. He'd rather be a pussy about it and let her suffer instead. So, even if you somehow think his actions are justified in killing her and everyone close to her, for survival's sake she had to kill him because he was going to just keep trying to kill her.

If a man is justified in killing a woman for leaving him, then a woman is justified in killing a dude who did all these things.

If you're going to be contrarian you have to at least make a /little/ sense.


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 02:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Klimbatize wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
Well, seriously...
Oh, and Samuel L. Jackson.
Who was possibly Jules Winfield.


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PostPosted: Dec 25 2011 03:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i forgot sam jackson was in that. yeah, if you kill sam jackson, you basically signed your own death warrant


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Dorkus
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PostPosted: Dec 27 2011 09:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

You know what always bothered my about those movies? The "kill everyone who wronged me" part was a total copout since she spares one of them (that French girl whose name I forget) and Michael Madsen's character was killed by someone else.
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Klimbatize
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PostPosted: Dec 27 2011 11:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

Dorkus wrote:
You know what always bothered my about those movies? The "kill everyone who wronged me" part was a total copout since she spares one of them (that French girl whose name I forget) and Michael Madsen's character was killed by someone else.

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She tries to kill him but...

Oh fuck it, it's like people don't even pay attention when watching movies. Watch it again and see if "that French girl" is shooting up the church at the beginning.


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Jack Slater
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PostPosted: Dec 27 2011 11:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

I don't have a problem with the motivations of the characters or the logic of them, I just think the movie is utter shite.


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PostPosted: Feb 23 2012 10:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Yeah, that's what she says to him before he "kills" her; "Bill, it's yours..." BLAM!


Technically, I thought she said "Bill, it's your ba..." And the gun goes off as she is about to say the last syllable of baby.
Bill probably assumed it wasn't his, then maybe thought it could be, knew Beatrice was about to confirm it, and pulled the trigger before she could finish confirming it.



 
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Feb 24 2012 11:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd... read the title of the movie. What the fuck did you think was going to happen? It doesn't matter how nice he is now... he was going to be killed.



 
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