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Buzz_Killington
Title: The Kill That Buzzes
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Yes, I did do a quick search for a World of Warcraft thread and nothing came up from the past six months, so no, I am not getting banned for doing a super bump.
Yes, I realize this is a controversial topic within gamers, specifically gamers who aren't neckbeards and gamers who frequent this website.
That out of the way, is there anybody on here who plays this? I just picked a vanilla and Burning Crusade combo up from Future Shop for $10 so I thought I'd try it out. I just have a few questions (which obviously weren't answered via Google search engine):
1) It told me I had one month free to play, which I am a little sceptical about getting fucked in the ass over. Recently Blizzard announced that you could play up to level 20 for free all the time, am I capped at level 20 for the free month? There's no point of having a free month if I'm capped at level 20 because I get the same damned privileges as everyone else who does not have a free month.
2) Is there actually anything interesting to do in this other than killing the same enemy two thousand times to get to a higher level? I want your guys' opinion on the game because opinions from Blizzard fan boys and douchey stoners don't really count.
3) I'm not giving them any credit card information or the like because, well, that's stupid. If I do continue to play this I will be buying the prepaid cards you can get. Are these reliable? I've read various sources that say they don't work half of the time.
4) Does anyone want to play this game with me?
Now you may be free to give me death threats and tell me how much of a faggot I am for paying money for a MMORPG.
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Beach Bum
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I've played it before, but the game gets dreadfully boring really quickly. You won't be capped at level 20 since the free month is the same as paying for it for an actual month, and I believe you'll find level 20 takes almost no time at all because the game is incredibly easy. I only played it because nearly everyone I worked with at the time played it and I ended up quitting after I got to the max level because there was literally nothing else to do that didn't require the same time as a job. I guess it was a decent way to kill time but to really commit to it you need to have absolutely nothing else going on in your life or a serious case of insomnia.
Probably a good idea not to give them credit info though because my account recently got hacked and I couldn't access the account when I went to add Starcraft 2 to it, and this was after nearly three years of not playing it.
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BlazingGlory
Title: KANE LIVES IN DEATH!
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Buzz_Killington wrote: |
1) It told me I had one month free to play, which I am a little sceptical about getting fucked in the ass over. Recently Blizzard announced that you could play up to level 20 for free all the time, am I capped at level 20 for the free month? There's no point of having a free month if I'm capped at level 20 because I get the same damned privileges as everyone else who does not have a free month.
2) Is there actually anything interesting to do in this other than killing the same enemy two thousand times to get to a higher level? I want your guys' opinion on the game because opinions from Blizzard fan boys and douchey stoners don't really count.
3) I'm not giving them any credit card information or the like because, well, that's stupid. If I do continue to play this I will be buying the prepaid cards you can get. Are these reliable? I've read various sources that say they don't work half of the time.
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1) If it's anything like those passes of free play that came with Starcraft II, I believe these passes no longer work at all, but yours could be different since it's an entire month. You might as well try playing for a while and see what happens.
2) I have more than a few friends who play this game ( I don't, because I'm a cheap ass like you wouldn't believe) and a lot of them say that the endgame stuff is more entertaining because it requires an insane level of coordination and whatnot between quite a few people (raids), and people say pvp can be fun, but aside from that, look at youtube. There's plenty of stuff to see in the game world, but ultimately, a lot of it is killing the same things over and over again, hoping it drops a vital organ/body part for a fetch quest (SPOILER!: most animals lack livers, hearts, eyes, hooves, and teeth, if the rants of said friends can be believed).
3) If that's that case, and you decide that you want to keep playing, I'd advise those gift card credit cards. Sure, you end up losing about $4.75 on activation fees, but if the prepaid cards are unreliable, it's really your only other option.
4) You're not likely to find anyone from here who wants to play this game for a few reasons, mostly money and it genuinely not appealing to people, but hey, someone might post below me to prove me wrong, as usual.
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Boonjovi
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I play, but I play on a 3.3.5a private server called TrueWOW. There aren't as many people, but that's both a good and bad thing, plus it's free. If you like WoW but decide it's not worth the monthly fee, then you're better off going for a private server.
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I recently started playing WoW again. I played it quite a lot 4 years ago or so, but now a days I only play about 5 hours a week. I might be considered a Blizzard "Fan-boy", but I am no neck beard elitist. Also, I start a job with Blizzard at the end of March, so all things considered I may be biased. =0
1) As far as I know you can use the free service up until level 20 for as long as you wish, but you stay at level 20 and you are extremely limited in functionality, such as not being able to make trades with players, use certain chat features, in game mail etc. This is to prevent gold spam. Your free month doesn't start until after you enter your Credit Card or Game Time card though, so basically you can play under level 20 with limited functionality indefinitely.
2) The leveling system got a huge overhaul with the last expansion and it is significantly less "grindy" than it was initially and far less so than other MMOs, but it is still a MMO and the sort of thing you are talking about is just part of these types of games. Again it is pretty well balanced though compared to other games, Aion, for instance, is terribly grindy and you quite literally have to kill the same monster over and over for hours due to you running out of quests, or at least it was that way at release. This does not happen in WoW, you will always have available quest hubs, and they do a pretty good job of getting you to a new zone and on to something new before things get too old. You can also level solely through PVP if that's your thing.
Note: SW:ToR is better than WoW in this area, it does an extremely good job keeping you interested in your character and the story. If this is a big enough deal to you you might want to check that out, but that game has its own issues, most of them due to it being only a couple weeks old, but not all.
3) I have only used time cards once, I got three of them for free and the only thing I could really see as being annoying is you forgetting to add your new card before your subscription expires. If it does expire however, nothing will happen to your characters, you simply can't log on until your account is "unfrozen" by adding a new one.
4) I play with some real life friends on the server Silvermoon PVE mostly.
One thing that I would caution you about is the WoW community. Most people have been playing this game for years or have at least played it extensively at one point in the past. This leads to some pretty unforgiving standards in a weird way, basically everyone expects you to know everything, and asking a simple question in a chat channel can lead to some pretty dickish/elitist responses. In my own experience it is actually pretty rare to meet brand new players, but as soon as you mention that you are actually new to the game, people calm down and try to help.
This translates to the end game as well, even long after you hit max level. Basically Blizzard put a tool/system into the game that allows you to run raids and dungeons with people from multiple servers. If there is one major compliant I have with WoW, it is this. What this leads to is unhealthy anonymity, where most likely you will run dungeons/raids with people you have never met before and probably never meet again, and some people use this anonymity to treat others like shit (4Chan?). Of coarse you can get around this by joining a guild with decent people in it or form groups with people on your server to avoid this type of thing, but it takes longer to form groups this way.
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SoldierHawk
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You know the only reason (well besides money) I don't play? The graphics. I cannot get past the cartoony, exaggerated graphics. It's the sole reason I played Guild Wards over WoW in college; GW had the art style I liked. (Still does; it's still the most beautiful MMO I've ever seen. I used to love just running around and sightseeing.)
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Alowishus
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Buzz_Killington wrote: |
1) It told me I had one month free to play, which I am a little sceptical about getting fucked in the ass over. Recently Blizzard announced that you could play up to level 20 for free all the time, am I capped at level 20 for the free month? There's no point of having a free month if I'm capped at level 20 because I get the same damned privileges as everyone else who does not have a free month.
2) Is there actually anything interesting to do in this other than killing the same enemy two thousand times to get to a higher level? I want your guys' opinion on the game because opinions from Blizzard fan boys and douchey stoners don't really count.
3) I'm not giving them any credit card information or the like because, well, that's stupid. If I do continue to play this I will be buying the prepaid cards you can get. Are these reliable? I've read various sources that say they don't work half of the time.
4) Does anyone want to play this game with me?
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1. I think you can activate it after that period of time? I'm not sure.
2. I haven't played through 1-60 since they revamped the whole system. It used to be just kill 8 x's and it was tedious as fuck. I think they have improved it with more "mini games" styled quests but it still isn't exactly thrilling. At least the ones around 80-85 were not.
...and let me assure you. If you get to end game and you haven't seen mindnumbingly boring repetition you will definitely get it here.
End game = grind same dungeons over and over for tokens/armor. New patch comes out, old armor is now shit and you are "lolnoachiev/gearscore" and you then proceed to grind the new dungeons over and over for tokens/armor and thus the cycle repeats.
3. I never had problems with the prepaid cards.
4. I can't i live in Europe.
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Murdar Machene
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WoW is an Excel spreadsheet with strafe keys. The game itself is almost nonexistent, with the majority of your time being spent looking at what seems to be loading bars. It's boring, full of people with fevered egos and mental problems who completely suck at games, and it has little to nothing in the way of actual roleplay or content that would amuse someone neurologically sound and above the age of 8.
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Atma
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I played WoW for a little bit, now on SWTOR, enjoying it better. Not knocking WoW or anyone who plays it.
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Murdar Machene
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What this leads to is unhealthy anonymity, where most likely you will run dungeons/raids with people you have never met before and probably never meet again, and some people use this anonymity to treat others like shit (4Chan?). |
I have a group of friends that specialize in this and show me screencaps of angry people in chat
putting my actual critique in a separate post for readability and context
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Murdar Machene
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I'll admit I played the fuck outta WoW, I had a hunter during the last expansion back in 2010. I even met one of my ex girlfriends on there, as pathetic as that is. So all my critique comes from actual experience.
The game consists of hitting a few keys in a set rotation while occasionally having to react to a passive ability activating. The rest of it is extremely slow paced and simplistic waddling around to avoid danger. The game mechanics are pathetically rudimentary yet players will still die to ridiculously stupid attacks by either failing to notice or refusing to move out of damaging spells on the floor (or any number of incredibly simple and easy to counteract gimmicks).
The player base is comprised almost solely of the most unskilled at videogames and the most ignorant of video gaming culture, let alone unskilled at social etiquette or general life knowledge. The people on WoW love to be seen and heard, love to collect shitty achievements and useless items to show off with to a degree that would make an obsessive TF2 hat collector cringe, and they hate to show any sign of being proven wrong, be it the damage table consistently showing you at the top, a verbal argument about the game itself, or how you should be playing your character (the best way to upset people is when you combine these).
I was kicked out of a guild for refusing to play my character the way THEY wanted. They supposedly needed me to change my entire talent tree and gear just so I could provide shitty mana replenish for them that they didn't even need. The problem was NEVER our heals, it was our DPS being shit, and they wanted me to go to a lower DPS spec so they could "heal more". The only reason we needed more heals was because we had morons who couldn't avoid taking damage and tanks that sucked balls at surviving. The problem wasn't me, I.E. not that one person wasn't giving 3% of the casters mana back every 20 seconds or some bullshit, it was because these people suck donkey cock at videogames. Besides, replenishment was a fucked and shitty stat that was only designed to shoehorn garbage specs into raiding so that you could be fooled into believing you had variety in your playstyle / raid composition / whatever the fuck. All it served to be was another set of training wheels for diaper shitting babies who can't play games.
The real kick in the balls here was that I was the highest DPS in the entire guild, and the only hunter around. The reason they wanted me to change my spec was because they got a new hunter that was buddy buddy with our guildmaster. The new hunter was in complete shit gear, but he was gemmed for armor penetration whereas I was gemmed for agility. Armor penetration was a broken, stupid, tryhard loser stat (so much so that it got straight removed from the game in the new expansion) so I refused to use it. Due to the gems alone in his shitty blue items, I was being harassed about swapping specs, and I refused. I asked the guildmaster, why not just play my character for me, obviously there's no point in being there to help if my free will isn't taken into account after I give and give.
So despite the fact I've showed up to every raid and showed up on time (even taking extra time beforehand to gather materials for potions etc. to help prepare for the night), despite the fact I've consistently played my role as a kiter / silencer / whatever they needed me to do for bossfights instead of whining and saying BUT I WANNA DO MAX DPS AND STAND IN PLACE like every other retard, despite the fact I was consistently doing max DPS whenever mechanically possible, despite the fact I consistently PASSED on gear that would be legitimate upgrades for me in favor of new guildies getting geared so the overall group can do better, I get shit on and told that I have to change to the "mana restore" spec. Fuck that. Protip: If the boss fucking dies faster, you don't need to heal as much.
WoW is a game for powerless shitstains to lord over people and feel good about themselves. There's no sense of loyalty, teamwork, or any real accomplishment. The hardest amount of work and dedication will amount to fuckall in the end regardless of how well received your actions and intentions are in any event, because all it amounts to is a gigantic void in your life where you can look back and say you have no meaningful memories whatsoever.
I AM knocking WoW and 99.99% of people who play it
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Murdar pretty much said it. There's a massive game to play in all of this, but people only want you to play maybe about 10% of it, 12% if you count PVP. Being in a guild is a crapshoot. You may find a good one, but most of the time you'll end up with total alpha-nerd control freaks who take constant failure at a raid as "Everybody sucks, need more passive-agressive kicking."
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Murdar Machene
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Not only that, but you can't do jack shit of the end game content WITHOUT being in a guild, so it's a total catch 22.
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Dr. Jeebus
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Because PuGers usually have enough sense to be frustrated with guilds.
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Murdar Machene
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Dr. Jeebus wrote: |
And yet, the only time I ever downed the Lich King back when I played was in a PUG, not with my guild. |
None of those people had ever met one another and none of them were current or prior guildies despite being from the same server, right? I mean it totally wasn't like 15 guildies looking to randomly fill spots in a group.
I meant consistently having access to end-game content in any sort of meaningful way. You don't consistently have access to end-game content with a PUG, as much as your completely random lucky group went against the rule that one time.
Either way, you must have had a hunter using replenishment, no other reason you won. Right? No but seriously, you got 1 in a billion odds of an actually competent pick up group, everyone on that game sucks balls at basic coordination. Then you get none of the gear because the leader is a ninja looting piece of shit, oh wait the entire game is terrible and downing the litch king would be a 10 minute ordeal if it was all people of my skill playing! Besides, it was probably a million years after everyone already stopped giving a shit, had gotten the best gear in the game, and had already killed the lich king ad nauseam with no chance of losing.
I mean it really doesn't matter whether or not guildies or pug members are what comprises your group, if everyone could simply do their job and play the game properly, every fight would be a joke. You're just not likely to get to the point where you can do end-game raids as a properly geared player in a timely fashion without the use of consistent raiding with the same group, as people get saved to instances, shit gets out of whack with people's schedules, etc.
You could do a shit ton of daily quests, get your badge gear, slowly move up...but it's such a completely obvious carrot on a stick scheme by that point, it's not even fun. If you didn't get geared before downing the litch king, you got completely carried and "you" didn't do jack shit. If you did get geared in the slow manner or with a guild, you still wasted time playing a shit game and still accomplished nothing, pug or not.
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GPFontaine
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Buzz,
I started playing WoW 3 months after it was released. I stopped playing WoW in August 2007. My experience was that the game was tremendously fun but I spent 3048 hours playing it. That was simply too much leveling and grinding to walk away with no real world benefit.
1 - No clue
2 - Leveling up used to be fun because there were lots of people doing it... of course that was when the game was fresh and the max level was 60. I am not sure what people do now. From what I hear, the early content can be almost avoided up through level 59.
3 - No clue
4 - No, sorry, no interest in playing WoW ever again
My suggestion to anyone who plays an MMO is simple. If you are the type of person who quits things regularly, you are safe. If you are the type of person who follows through with goals, this game will drain your time. This is one of the few games where being a quitter is a good thing.
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sidewaydriver
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Holy shit, GP. That was 127 days of your life.
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If you are the type of person who follows through with goals, this game will drain your time. This is one of the few games where being a quitter is a good thing. |
I don't know about this statement. I can't imagine 99% of the people playing WoW being very goal oriented in life. It would seem to me they've quit reality.
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Buzz_Killington
Title: The Kill That Buzzes
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sidewaydriver wrote: |
Holy shit, GP. That was 127 days of your life.
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If you are the type of person who follows through with goals, this game will drain your time. This is one of the few games where being a quitter is a good thing. |
I don't know about this statement. I can't imagine 99% of the people playing WoW being very goal oriented in life. It would seem to me they've quit reality. |
That about sums it up. I'm done with life, even if I am younger than most people on here, I just really don't care to socialize any more. Thanks everyone for the helpful answers, I'm a level 11 Undead Hunter right now, so we'll see what happens.
Edit: I have a few invite codes, not sure what anybody could really use them for, but just let me know if you want them and I'll PM one to you.
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I played for a few months and really enjoyed it and would probably quite likely enjoy it again but couldn't stomach the feeling of paying for a game over and over again. After I'd sunk about 40 bucks in I had decided that any more would be a diminishing return on value. It was not nearly as boring as I thought it was going to be.
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i have also stopped playing WoW. i only played up til right before the first expand came out and havent picked it up since then.
i am willing to play SW TOR when i get a decent PC though.
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Murdar Machene
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Dr. Jeebus wrote: |
Wow, good thing you didn't fly off the handle like a jackass or anything. I thought you said you grew up when Syd let you back in here? |
What part of my post was flying off the handle? I took your original reply as a rote statement of irony, nothing more. I really only wanted to discuss the caveats of this "game", not deride anyone's opinion. I even threw in a joke about my guild's shitty reasoning to lighten the mood (replenishment bit).
Your tone suggests that you're actually offended by something I said which could only indicate that you feel upset and called out for writing what amounted to a contradictory and worthless passive-aggressive trollbait post in the first place. Why else would anyone be upset over my reply (a reply which only states facts that are gonna be statistically true the majority of the time)?
How the fuck am I the one that needs to grow up when you're acting like a crybaby who can't accept a difference of opinion? Seriously, why are you so upset? Did you lose a game of magic or were you really that proud of beating a shit boss in a shit game?
All I was doing was rationally discussing the topic at hand. The only person being unreasonable is you, with your single sentence reply non-contribution thread shitting. You can speak like a mature adult and face facts or your bullshit will be met in kind. You're acting like a toddler trying to argue with his science teacher about the sun shining all day by bringing up an eclipse, then when I explain the relevant phenomenon you shit your pants and start bawling. Please leave me alone and cut the shit, no one is a victim here.
The point I was trying to make is that the game forces you to be a co-dependant retard if you want to even play the endgame shit, which I find lame. Blizzard ruined Diablo 2 with that mentality and WoW is more of the same, just multiplied by a thousand.
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