One of the most Powerful videos I've seen in a while. Certainly worth a watch.
Preng
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Dec 05 2011 05:11 pm
It seems to be the case these days where children are bullied in school and little, if anything is done against it.
However, Jonah is one brave dude. This guy is going to grow up to be a strong individual.
Thanks for sharing this, Atma.
Atma
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Dec 05 2011 06:19 pm
Preng wrote:
However, Jonah is one brave dude. .
I thought the same thing.
It takes one hell of a person to put yourself out like that to everyone.
It's inspiring to me.
Etch
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Dec 05 2011 07:17 pm
Maybe I'm just extremely cynical, but this seems more like attention whoring to me.
And, for someone going into 8th grade, he sure misspells a lot of words.
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Dec 05 2011 11:46 pm
Etch wrote:
And, for someone going into 8th grade, he sure misspells a lot of words.
i think thats more a commentary on our education system vs a commentary on him specifically.
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Dec 06 2011 05:00 pm
Etch wrote:
Maybe I'm just extremely cynical, but this seems more like attention whoring to me.
You aren't the first person I've heard say that, but I didn't really get that vibe at all. High school isn't actually a bitchin' time, and the horrible sense of unbelonging that most people during it is augmented tenfold when you're questioning your sexuality/identity. People can be vicious. I can relate to the kid. I really hope things get better for him.
I was actually talking to my dad about this the other day; he says that back in his day (he's 57), bullying and stuff existed, but to a way, way smaller extent - none of the bathroom/locker room rape and drug dealing and sociopathic violence you see now. Do you guys think there's any particular reason why the hostility in schools has gotten worse over the years?
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Dec 06 2011 06:45 pm
I'd consider psychological bullying way worse. Bullying didn't hurt as much back when I was in school, though I never got bullied. Kids would get punched in the face or wrestle around or made fun of, but add a Facebook account and the ability to humiliate someone in front of their friends and families and I'd say it's way worse.
Cameron wrote:
Do you guys think there's any particular reason why the hostility in schools has gotten worse over the years?
Parents. You've got kids with absolute no respect for authority, other people or themselves running around now, and it makes me sick. Of course they existed in different decades, but I'd say the number is up by a lot now a days. They didn't get that way magically or overnight. Of course there are plenty of other factors, but parents is certainly one of them.
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Dec 06 2011 06:51 pm
Cameron wrote:
I was actually talking to my dad about this the other day; he says that back in his day (he's 57), bullying and stuff existed, but to a way, way smaller extent - none of the bathroom/locker room rape and drug dealing and sociopathic violence you see now. Do you guys think there's any particular reason why the hostility in schools has gotten worse over the years?
The media. By media I don't mean news outlets. I mean like TV and Movies. I wasn't really sure what the video was about. Did he come out? At least he spelt my name right.
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Dec 06 2011 07:06 pm
Douche McCallister wrote:
The media. By media I don't mean news outlets. I mean like TV and Movies. .
Also, I'd like to add that the kid didn't just do a direct approach video. He sensationalized the situation by not talking and doing the cue card approach with added sentimental music. I feel for the kid, am proud of him for saying something, at least and have nothing against him, but he would have gotten a lot more sympathy from me and other people if he would have been more direct, but he'd also probably gotten less YouTube views.
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Dec 06 2011 07:10 pm
joshwoodzy wrote:
Douche McCallister wrote:
The media. By media I don't mean news outlets. I mean like TV and Movies. .
From a wife who taught in the hood and the complete opposite of the hood that along with parents are the most likely combination. No need for the eye roll.
Greg the White
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Dec 06 2011 09:05 pm
Warning: I had originally meant for a little "Woo, go kid!" post, which turned into a "For those who are saying attention whoring..." which turned into the mess that it is now. Rambling, yet on topic. I didn't want to just delete it.
I wonder if it truly is different these days. We didn't track emotional problems back in the day like we do now, so there may well have been problems mentally and emotionally dealing with peer abuse (when it came to any school) in decades past. The problem with intense bullying is that you have no escape from it. In class, in the halls, after school. When other people see it, they join in as well, because that's how they'll be accepted, and then the avenues of safety from the bullying are completely cut off. Teachers don't give a crap, probably due to a lack of empathy, or because the parents will complain about any punishment due to a lack of empathy on their part.
I went through the same thing. I was from out of town, tall, overweight, got good grades, in enrichment programs, wore glasses, etc., the list of targets goes on. I'd get bullied, then get in a fight, and be punished because fuck the kids, the teachers don't want to actually know what's going on. Then I'd have to go to detention with these same kids, and then sent out into an empty school alone with them again to get more bullying and into more fights. I was one of the few lucky ones who eventually got good enough at defending myself physically that most people only resorted to verbal abuse when we weren't around teachers.
I remember telling my parents detailed descriptions at the time, but they thought I was exaggerating or not having thick enough skin. Then one day years later when I was home from college, my mom got drunk and started yelling at me for being shy and not having a lot of friends. I tried to end the conversation, but she persisted, which just reminded me of the bullying. That was the first time I'd ever yelled back at my parents. My mom was so taken by me actually talking back and raising my voice, she didn't even speak back towards me. I was 21 and blubbering and yelling at the top of my lungs about the constant harassment, getting baseballs thrown at me during practice, coaches thinking it was cute and all good fun and joining in on the teasing, and then my sister would give me more of it when I would get home (she eventually caught on how bad it was, apologized, and we've been close ever since).
I had a small clique of usually no more than 3 or 4 friends (with plenty I could just talk to) throughout school, but I was so damned shy of calling anyone or asking to them to hang out that I spent most of my time alone at home, just stewing in my loneliness even more. Soon, you've watched every TV show, read every book, and played every video game. There's nobody to talk to, no laughing. You're jaded before you've had your last growth spurt. That's where the problems such as the cutting, suicidal thoughts, the emotional scarring comes from. The teasing only reminds you of your "flaws", and without friends to make you feel wanted or teachers/school programs to nurture what's positive about you, you're constantly down on yourself. I feel even worse complaining about this when there are kids out there in much worse situations than I am, but to say it didn't leave a huge impact on who I am and how I act would be a lie.
So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
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Dec 06 2011 10:00 pm
I was bullied in grade school. I knew everyone from K-5, then I was sent to a Catholic School for 6th and 7th, the kids hated me, I had glasses, wasn't the most athletic kid, and was friends with kids that none of the other kids regularly talked to. I walked home from school being punched in the head for 8 blocks on a regular basis by the same group of kids.
Then I got sent back to all my "friends" in 8th grade to a public school. Everyone had moved on to new friendships and had their cliq's. I didn't wear baggy pants and shirts that said Nike or Hilfiger on them along with glasses. Even my old friends were strangers. No girls wanted to talk to the unpopular kid with glasses.
It took starting highschool to set the world right. Most of the kids didn't know me, I got contacts (finally) and now I was the one who was friends with everyone. When a lot of the kids who had previously punched me came to MY school later on, they were the outcasts who fell in with the "loser" crowd. And by loser crowd I mean the losers who did drugs and were "Badasses".
tl;dr Karma is a bitch.
JoshWoodzy
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Posted:
Dec 06 2011 10:40 pm
Well regardless of the kids intentions, he seems happier now.
Greg the White
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Posted:
Dec 06 2011 11:15 pm
You'd be surprised what a little bit of outlet and human compassion can do. I'm glad for him.
So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.