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Posted: Aug 30 2011 12:05 pm

I was in Okinawa making some amazing spaghetti in my room; then those ass clowns took down the towers and the sirens went off and we went into grab your shit and run like a maniac mobilization mode. I remember the sickness in my stomach as the first taste of fear of war come upon me, then my friend came out of his room with a chicken bone neckless screaming how Crom was pleased. I laughed a bit, but then I paused and told him, these fuckers are gonna pay for messing with Spaghetti-Wednesday.

Posted: Aug 30 2011 12:19 pm

I went to work at 5am that day. Spent the next 6 hours tearing down an outdoor stage, so my boss, other co-worker, and myself didn't know about any of it until we took a lunch break and went into a diner, and that was all anyone was talking about.

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I was still asleep since I didn't have class until 1pm. I was in that wierd state where I could hear my clock radio and I was dreaming the newsman was in my room telling me a plane just crashed into the WTC. When I heard someone say the tower was no longer standing I woke up and was like WTF? I ran downstairs and put the tv on and was struck dumb. I couldn't believe it.

When I went to work, we just put the radio on over the loudspeaker and sat outside and talked about it all night.

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I was 11 years old. I was starting my second year of Grammar School or at least in the first few weeks of grammar school beginning. I came home school and it was on tv, it was about 4pm GMT so the coverage was still on as "BREAKING NEWS" (about 11am EST).

Posted: Aug 30 2011 05:42 pm

Ditto that. I mean, I don't know, nobody even seems to care about Waco or Oklahoma City or anything else now, and those were bad too. Maybe not in scope, but still, all I'll be doing is sleeping, which is exactly what I was doing when it happened. I was dating a Canadian masseuse and she called me up, all panicked, and said that there was a plane crash in some big building (again, Canadian). I got out of bed and turned the news on, and bickety-bam, there it was (I had already dropped out of college at this point in time). Then I got to spend the rest of the day listening to rednecks make horrific anti-Arab/anti-Muslim statements while buying beer, newspapers and cigarettes at the 7-11 off of Bonita Beach Road.

I don't know. I'm sorry, I guess, for what it's worth, but I literally feel nothing over the whole situation. Nobody that I knew died or was injured, and as a result of it, there's been sweeping legislation to remove people's basic liberties and three sinkholes of war (one legal but unjustified, another totally unjustified and another illegal one) draining trillions from our national coffers and driving your children's children into debt they won't see their way out of unless there's an intervening sovereign default (which would be the best thing that could ever, ever happen after all the hemmorhaging). Seeing as how their aim was to destabilize the US, I'd say they kind of got the job accomplished, didn't they?

Posted: Aug 30 2011 07:32 pm

aeonic wrote:

Ditto that. I mean, I don't know, nobody even seems to care about Waco or Oklahoma City or anything else now, and those were bad too. Maybe not in scope, but still, all I'll be doing is sleeping, which is exactly what I was doing when it happened.

The fact that it was foreign forces and not domestic ones that killed thousands of citizens that day is what sets it apart from Waco and Oklahoma City. They're all tragic terrorist attacks, but we hadn't had civilians get hit like that by outside forces on American soil in our history. It was a unique situation that still needs to be learned from.

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I remember all of the events on this list:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/top25-headlines.htm

However, as Klimb put it, only one of those was a foreign attack on the country.

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I was in middle school 8th grade, I first heard some whispers about it on the school bus and saw it in my first class. Some of the teachers tried to keep lessons going like normal, but the rest just had the tv on for students in stunned silence.

Posted: Aug 31 2011 04:23 am

aeonic wrote:

Ditto that. I mean, I don't know, nobody even seems to care about Waco or Oklahoma City or anything else now

I do, there's something worse in my mind about Americans terrorizing other Americans, yeah 911 was worse by far when it comes to scale but it was a bunch of foreign pricks that none of us knew, or at least all of us here personally or anyone I know or anyone who I know knows, but Oklahoma was perpetrated by fellow Americans which feels worse somehow to me at least when it comes to betrayal if not the the scale of the atrocity. I know this country is not a big happy family but it just seems wrong to attack your fellow countrymen or even your government in an underhanded sneak attack fashion like that.

I guess open warfare would be one thing if you were really that fucking determined to resist or fight or whatever your problem was but blowing up a building full of people is cowardly and pathetic and seems like a really stupid and pointless and tragic way to make a point. The fact that is was one of us just makes it more repulsive. I disagree ~~strongly~~ severely with all sorts of things going on around here in this country, but blowing up buildings with fertilizer bombs seems like the worst and most illogical way to change something or make your point, I guess I just don't understand how people get there mentally to decide that shit is acceptable / justifiable. Confused

aeonic wrote:

as a result of it, there's been sweeping legislation to remove people's basic liberties and three sinkholes of war (one legal but unjustified, another totally unjustified and another illegal one) draining trillions from our national coffers and driving your children's children into debt they won't see their way out of unless there's an intervening sovereign default (which would be the best thing that could ever, ever happen after all the hemmorhaging). Seeing as how their aim was to destabilize the US, I'd say they kind of got the job accomplished, didn't they?

I'm not going to argue the legitimacy of one war over the over or who is wrong or right in the grand scheme of things but what you've referred to above was the exact thing I feared and assumed would happen as I watched that second plane hit and realized that it wasn't some random accident. Kind of a weird feeling knowing that a shit sandwich is on the horizon and all you can do is prepare to chow down. Neutral

Personally I think trading freedoms for security is a bum deal, if I ended up in some sort of terrorist situation I'd tell the terrorist to kiss my ass and then present it, living in fear of their actions means they have won half the war they want to wage, at least that's how I see things.

Look at that whole skillet of shit where South Park was going to have a generic Canadian character named Mohammed with an M on his shirt and they got told NOPE YOU CANNOT DO THAT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES BECAUSE IT PUTS US ALL IN DANGER, yeah it was distasteful and inflammatory, but really if you think about it is letting opponents dictate our behavior based upon their reaction to said behavior really the way to win any sort of dispute?

As a Christian I see people mock both facets of my faith and the general concept of my faith in general ALL THE TIME, but do I go out and blow shit up because of that? NO, because I'm a rational adult human being and expected to act as such in this punch bowl with a turd floating in it world we all share, and despite my strong discordance with other groups and their beliefs motives and ideas I don't think that being the biggest dick in the dick waving contest solves anything, so I try to keep my dick in my pants so to speak because that's how fucking rational fully grown adults should act. WHY CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?! Mad

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What I mean but the whole kiss my ass sentiment is not meant as tough guy hyperbole at least not intentionally, but rather my take on the whole turn the other cheek philosophy. As a Christian I think that violence in general and killing specifically is plain wrong, but I understand that sometimes one will have to defend one's life and you don't always have time to think clearly in those situations.

What I would strive for is to defend myself so I can continue existing without killing someone else. If I had to break someone's jaw or arm to disarm them and stay alive I'd do it right away, but I wouldn't be happy or proud of the outcome because I think that if we all really try we can resolve our differences without violence and the violence I took part in to survive would represent a failure of that ability to communicate rationally and come to a common understanding, and it wouldn't really matter to me where the blame lay at the end of the situation.

however if I were truly facing death and had no way out and was given a choice to renounce my beliefs or morals or whatever (be they religion based or freedom based or however you want to phrase it) OR dying I wouldn't be comfortable with myself if I betrayed that and would have to turn the other cheek so to speak and present my ass for kissing.

Am I coming across rationally with this or do I seem like a nutjob? Also who knows what would really happen, I might cry and beg and do whatever some dick with a box cutter demanded, or I might go all Rambo instinct mode and kill my hypothetical assailant with a ballpoint pen to the throat. What I'm trying to say is I respect how the passengers on flight 93 went out, they resisted and I'd like to think I'd do the same, at least within the boundaries I've set for myself when it comes to violence. Confused

Posted: Aug 31 2011 09:08 am

I was in First Grade, nobody knew what was going on and i just remember being confused, i actually really dont remember the day at all, only the dinner my family had that night. My dad still active duty at the time didnt talk a lot the whole time, then my mom asks "So how do you think were gonna respond"
My dad just said "War"
It hit so hard because he was gone for a year in 03