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Treasure Hunter Road Show, CROOKS!!!


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King
Title: CTE
Joined: Apr 27 2008
Location: Harrisburg, PA
PostPosted: Aug 27 2011 12:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So I went to the Treasure Hunter Road Show when it was here this week in Harrisburg. I got my number and waited about 2.5 hours till it was called. I brought with me baseball cards from the early 80's - 90's (which I have no certainty to there worth) and a box of comic books late 70's - 90's (which I know exactly what they are worth, including condition).

What they failed to mention, but now has since been changed as of today on their website (well for the baseball cards anyway) that are only willing to look at 1970 and before baseball cards, AND, 1962 and before comic books.

Not in the ads in the newspaper or radio, not in the articles, not online (till today) and not when we registered did anyone mention ANY of this, even though when I registered I advised the guy what I had.

I should be glad though that my wife was with me, or it would have gotten very ugly. DO NOT SELL ANYTHING TO THEM!!! or really go to any event, not only, as I did expect, are they low balling, but they will change what they accept, but not bother to tell anyone what they are actually buying until you have waited hours
this is the beginning of my campaign to raise awareness, and force change with this.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Aug 27 2011 02:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

And this makes them crooks how? Because they didn't want to buy your stuff? They're under no obligation to accept anything from you, whether they have an official policy or not.

They probably should have told you when you registered, but otherwise, yeah, you wasted your time. It sucks and it pisses you off, but it doesn't make them dishonest.
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PostPosted: Aug 27 2011 02:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
They probably should have told you when you registered, but otherwise, yeah, you wasted your time. It sucks and it pisses you off, but it doesn't make them dishonest.

i agree w/the rabbit.


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King
Title: CTE
Joined: Apr 27 2008
Location: Harrisburg, PA
PostPosted: Aug 27 2011 07:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

While the term crooks in the general sense of the term may be arguable, they are deceitful in business, and got called on it, this, THIS makes them CROOKED, and thus crooks. Also I never said they are or were under any obligation to buy my items, but stating that they are interesting in seeing items that, until they now today fixed their site, to potentially purchase, and IN FACT do not have any intention of doing so further shows this. THey are very dishonest, also I have done further research, and they have contacted and or responded to indviduals online and over the phone who have advised specifically what they had, were told to bring their items in to be evaluated, and then once there asked the same questions I was as to age of items (being either sports collectibles or comic books) a question that was answered over the phone or online, and when answered at an event, their items were not looked at at all, but told like me no interest.

Additional fact I found out today, had a conversation with my father who told me about the event today, and he had called in inquire about what they were purchasing prior to telling me, and I know at least in regard to my baseball cards, advised them of their age since he knew I had problems with a local card shop dicking me around wanting to give me less then the gas money to get there. So even better I was lied to by proxy. FUCKING CROOKS!!!!


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Lady_Satine
Title: Head of Lexian R&D
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PostPosted: Aug 27 2011 11:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dude, you must be pissed because it seems to have affected your writing. I had to rereard your post about 3 times (You have a massive run-on sentence in the 2nd paragraph).

Until the dealers admit interest in buying or giving a proper price, and not just willingness to look at your offerings, there is no promise of, nor should there be any expectation of, payment.


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Beach Bum
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2011 12:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

I don't see how you could have expected anything else. This seems pretty similar to something like Cash4Gold or crap like that. If you are really interested in selling this stuff do the work to find out how much it is worth and then sell it online or something. You might not get exactly what it is worth there but at least you have a better chance of getting a decent price, and not getting the run around from places like this.
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Blackout
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2011 01:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

Take it all to a pawnshop, they're sure to give you a fair deal. Razz



 
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King
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Location: Harrisburg, PA
PostPosted: Aug 28 2011 02:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

If you read in my previous posts, I neither expected they would necessarily give me an offer of any price I would accept, NOR did I have any, ANY expectations that I would or would not sell anything, HOWEVER, the deceipt used in not advising anyone, or WORSE YET, misrepresenting themselves to me and others of an interest in items to EVALUATE, and potentially offering something, and then having not just myself, but MANY, MANY others that they didn't even LOOK at our items after such long waits, THIS IS BULLSHIT

If you read, again, I NEVER SAID I EXPECTED THEM TO BUY OR NEED TO BUY ANYTHING
but, I did expect them to actually LOOK, and EVAULATE my items, and more so advise myself or others, LIKE MY OWN FATHER WHO SPECIFICALLY STATED AGE of some of my items, and then have myself or others wait HOURS, and then OOPS SORRY, FUCK YOU

What they owed me, and anyone is honesty in business, and whereas they have corrected somethings as of TODAY, on their website, that I KNOW IN FACT I am responsible since I saw the employee there LOGGING IN to change things on their website, and from I found out from some people I know involed with the hotel it is at more then a few individuals in my community reporting them to the Better Business Bureau, which I am not sure if they belong to or not, but I am certain no business wants

They advertise, or have advertised a WILLINGNESS, to look at items, but have, and DID advise they wanted to look at at least some of my items, BUT DID NOT LOOK, nor HAD ANY INTEREST in looking AT ALL, this, THIS DECEPTION, THIS IS MY PROBLEM

I very much understand that if I or anyone wants a certain price to post things any variety of places online, but, I expect to have my items ACTUALLY EVALUATED AS PROMISED, not a general, OH THAT ISN'T BEFORE A CERTAIN YEAR THAT WE DIDN't TELL YOU AND IN FACT FOR SOME OF YOUR ITEMS LIED ABOUT WANTING TO EVALUATE FOR A PRICE, this is the CROOKED deceitful practice I take issue with.


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Lady_Satine
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2011 02:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Fine. Sue them, get the case either thrown out or wind up losing, then make a new headache-inducing thread about THOSE procedings.


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2011 11:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I could have told you that no one will touch comics from the 70s and Up. I know this, because for awhile I had an entire comic book store's stock in my garage. I'm sure I mentioned it before. But, to make a long story short, I sold 300,000+ comics for a grand total of $2,400.

There is no market for them. At all.

You might get lucky with some if people want to buy them to collect a full set, or the very few stand outs from that era. (Sin City, Watchmen, or famous runs such as Death In The Family or The Killing Joke.)

I imagine the same is true with 80s/90s Baseball Cards, since that is when the market became over saturated with tons of cards and brands.

All that shit is worth the same amount has all the pogs people collected in the 90s = Jack Shit.

Unless you have something truly special like an "Amazing Fantasy #15" or a Mickey Mantle rookie card, nobody wants it.
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 12:55 am Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
I could have told you that no one will touch comics from the 70s and Up. I know this, because for awhile I had an entire comic book store's stock in my garage. I'm sure I mentioned it before. But, to make a long story short, I sold 300,000+ comics for a grand total of $2,400.

There is no market for them. At all.

You might get lucky with some if people want to buy them to collect a full set, or the very few stand outs from that era. (Sin City, Watchmen, or famous runs such as Death In The Family or The Killing Joke.)

I imagine the same is true with 80s/90s Baseball Cards, since that is when the market became over saturated with tons of cards and brands.

All that shit is worth the same amount has all the pogs people collected in the 90s = Jack Shit.

Unless you have something truly special like an "Amazing Fantasy #15" or a Mickey Mantle rookie card, nobody wants it.

I can't speak for comics, but I can vouch for the baseball card market being in the toilet. Not only are there a lot of them out there, but most of the people who collected them then are grown up and also trying to dump them. On top of that, kids don't want to collect them anymore - TCGs really undercut them. Why have a card with a player's stats and picture when you can collect cards you can play an actual game with?
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Title: Head of Lexian R&D
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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 02:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
I can't speak for comics, but I can vouch for the baseball card market being in the toilet. Not only are there a lot of them out there, but most of the people who collected them then are grown up and also trying to dump them. On top of that, kids don't want to collect them anymore - TCGs really undercut them. Why have a card with a player's stats and picture when you can collect cards you can play an actual game with?

Seriously, I think the only hobby with an older demographic would be toy train enthusiasts, where the young bucks are in their early 50's.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 02:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

Have you ever considered that there was some sort of mix up and that is why they didn't have whatever you're shouting about posted on their website? Maybe it was an honest mistake.



 
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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 08:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

The big issue is that there was a collector market in the 80's and 90's so people thought to save their old comics and cards instead of throwing them away like yesteryear.

The reason there are collections from the 60's and below that cost more is because people weren't as insane about collecting. If there are still 2 million issues of say extreme x-men number one or that same amount of some hot shots rookie card around it saturates the market and devalues them.

Though if hurricanes keep hitting people their collections will likely get ruined so keep dreaming.


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King
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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 09:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

There was no mix up, and whereas I am not interesting in suing them, and by the way if it induces a headache in you, don't read it, but none the less, It was the dishonesty that is at issue here, having not only myself, but many others waste time, and thank god I live near by or money to drive for such an event on promises of giving some price or another, the fact is if they had previously posted on their site, or in their ads, or told the TRUTH to my father over the phone who then in turn told me, then we wouldn't have a problem, but they did not, and while I am sure practices like these occur regularly, they should not, and need not.

Again, If they looked at my things and low balled a nothing offer even, but took the time to actually do as promised, no issue then, it was the lying and waste everyone's time, especially anyone who brought items to be evaluated, and more so, unlike me, anyone who would have driven a distance to do so.


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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 10:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
All that shit is worth the same amount has all the pogs people collected in the 90s = Jack Shit.

Laughing

I remember collecting those stupid ass pogs.

My Uncle owned a Comic Book shop for about a year. Notice the Past Tense. There was nothing to keep the place afloat. Barely anyone came in and bought anything but a few dedicated folks. This wasn't last year or something either, this was back in Mid to Late 90's. Around the time Spawn was big. That's how I got my First Edition Spawn Comic, unread in Mint Condition worth approx. $4.
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PostPosted: Aug 29 2011 09:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
The big issue is that there was a collector market in the 80's and 90's so people thought to save their old comics and cards instead of throwing them away like yesteryear.

The reason there are collections from the 60's and below that cost more is because people weren't as insane about collecting. If there are still 2 million issues of say extreme x-men number one or that same amount of some hot shots rookie card around it saturates the market and devalues them.

Though if hurricanes keep hitting people their collections will likely get ruined so keep dreaming.

thats exactly what happened. people started making huge amounts of money for old comics, that comic book companies made a surplus of comic books. so, there were a lot of unsold comics, and comic book companies were almost going bankrupt because of that.


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PostPosted: Aug 30 2011 11:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

And that's why marvel properties are tied up in such odd ways, it was the only resort against bankruptcy.


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PostPosted: Aug 31 2011 04:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

See I was unaware of all this until recently in life, I thought untouched number one issues of anything reasonably old (like say 15+ years) was worth at least something, like maybe double or triple the original going rate. But I found the first four Lobo comics sitting under the glass sealed in Mylar almost pristine at the local antique mall for like a buck each, and this place knows the value of stuff because they mark shit up to roughly match what's floating around on the internet all the time. I got em stowed away and will see what happens when or if I've got kids old enough for a car or something, never even read em. Was the mini series even any good? I never really got in to DC and only knew about Lobo because someone here posted that cover where he killed Santa Clause which caused me to do some followup research.



 
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