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Five-year-old Murderer?


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Andrew Man
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PostPosted: Jun 13 2011 02:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Some of my very first, truly vivid memories startup from around when I was 5.


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Natsu
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PostPosted: Jun 13 2011 05:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Not to bash on the spanking, but a lot of studies have came out to show that positive reinforcment is actually much more effective in teaching children to behave a certain way.

On this issue though, I for some reason didn't notice there was a teenager watching them. Well, I then could find some blame for the teenager, not sure on their age, but most on the parents for making a poor choice in who to allow to supervise their children.
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lavalarva
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PostPosted: Jun 13 2011 06:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

...Yeah, if the teenager is like 12, that was really dumb on the parents' part. I don't think his/her age was revealed though, and I'm not sure they can in the first place.
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PostPosted: Jun 13 2011 06:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow! That would be the first 12 year old teenager ever, lava!


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The Opponent
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PostPosted: Jun 13 2011 09:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I remember when me and my siblings misbehaved, our mom would have us line up facing the wall to get smacked in turn. I turned out fine, at least. My brother and sister, on the other hand...


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 05:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

Speaking of first childhood memories some of mine are of my parents beating the holy living shit out of each other while I was like four or so, and getting beat while trying to intervene, I now have a severe aversion to conflict as well as reluctance to get involved in anything.



 
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 10:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

Different children respond to different forms of punishment. I've been subject to quite a few different punishments, and I believe by far the most effective was when my parents sat me down and made me realize that whatever I had done had disappointed them. The feeling of shame really sticks to me like fucking glue. If I feel ashamed of something I've done, then there's a pretty good chance that I'll never do it again.

That having been said, this may not be the best universal form of punishment, I'm just saying that's what worked for me.


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The Flaming Schnitzel
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 01:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm with Drew here. That's how my parents raised me as well.

The first time I was hit was when I was 14, and my dad slapped me. It's never happened since either.


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lavalarva
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 04:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It may be different if you have siblings. I got slapped really hard at 5 when I threw sand in my sister's eyes.

And my parents liked to make me kneel in the corner for a few minutes when I wouldn't behave. Even when we were visiting people. That was fucking embarassing.
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The Flaming Schnitzel
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 05:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

lavalarva wrote:
It may be different if you have siblings. I got slapped really hard at 5 when I threw sand in my sister's eyes.

Never said I didn't have siblings. I'm the oldest of four.


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lavalarva
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 05:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was speaking in general, not necessarily to you. Smile
But, nice. I'm the oldest of three. And almost all my cousins are older than me, so most of them remember me sitting in the corner :O
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Jun 14 2011 09:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sitting in the corner didn't help at all. Or writing lines. Or being hit with spoons (hate that shit). I always found something else to pass the time if it was a question of boredom. Embarrassing stuff was also good. Anything that made you feel bad was a good method of tortu--punishment.


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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jun 15 2011 10:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You need to get a child to understand their actions are wrong. If they know that it is wrong, yet insist on doing it, then you bring in deterrents such as punishment. Smacking your kid or throwing him in the corner for doing something does not get them to understand what's wrong, and if they enjoy doing that particular thing, then they'll just keep doing it while taking their hits.

A lot of the problems with a-holes like the Jersey Shore kids is that they don't look at themselves and say "Oh they dislike me because I get drunk, scream, and throw punches everywhere." They're the by-product of the self-esteem movement that awarded them for doing nothing or outright failing, so they instead think "Oh, they hatin' cause they want my six-pack."

A five-year-old probably doesn't understand drowning as a way of dying (I remember having comic books in school mentioning drowning, but not knowing what it actually meant), and if they do, it's kind of fucked up. Leaving two very young children alone, though, is straight-up negligence. I honestly can't bring myself to ask the babysitter to be punished because she didn't do much beyond living children unattended, and if she's even a half-decent person, having a baby's death on your conscience must be devastating.


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PostPosted: Jun 16 2011 10:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

Greg the White wrote:
You need to get a child to understand their actions are wrong. If they know that it is wrong, yet insist on doing it, then you bring in deterrents such as punishment. Smacking your kid or throwing him in the corner for doing something does not get them to understand what's wrong, and if they enjoy doing that particular thing, then they'll just keep doing it while taking their hits.

A lot of the problems with a-holes like the Jersey Shore kids is that they don't look at themselves and say "Oh they dislike me because I get drunk, scream, and throw punches everywhere." They're the by-product of the self-esteem movement that awarded them for doing nothing or outright failing, so they instead think "Oh, they hatin' cause they want my six-pack."

A five-year-old probably doesn't understand drowning as a way of dying (I remember having comic books in school mentioning drowning, but not knowing what it actually meant), and if they do, it's kind of fucked up. Leaving two very young children alone, though, is straight-up negligence. I honestly can't bring myself to ask the babysitter to be punished because she didn't do much beyond living children unattended, and if she's even a half-decent person, having a baby's death on your conscience must be devastating.

i agree w/this whole post.


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