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'Intactivists' to San Francisco: Ban circumcision


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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 01:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

lordsathien wrote:
You can be circumcised at any point, but it apparently hurts like a bitch and takes a while to heal after a few years of age.

Ah, I see. But even with that, I'd have preferred that to having the choice made for me (damn you religious parents!).


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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
Location: That Rainy State
PostPosted: May 21 2011 02:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Isn't it done in the west mostly as a hygiene thing?



 
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The Flaming Schnitzel
Title: Tsar of all Russias
Joined: May 10 2011
Location: Minsk, Belarus
PostPosted: May 21 2011 11:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
Isn't it done in the west mostly as a hygiene thing?


Yes or for religious reasons.


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aika
Title: Narcissist
Joined: Apr 25 2008
Location: On the table.
PostPosted: May 21 2011 11:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think this is a poor argument, personally (err, the hygiene one, that is). That's like saying everyone should shave their heads so they don't get lice. On one hand, that's true and makes sense, but on the other hand, if you just keep yourself clean and wash your hair regularly, you can avoid it.

From guys I know who have foreskin, it's not a huge deal to keep your dick any cleaner than someone who doesn't have it. Just peel it back and clean underneath. It's not like it takes an extra hour of your morning routine or something.

Just think about that. You're hacking off skin from your body so you don't have to spend an extra, what, minute? 30 seconds? cleaning yourself in the shower. Seems a bit extreme.


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ADATO
Joined: May 16 2011
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 11:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Beldantazar wrote:
ADATO wrote:
There is no medical reason to have an infant circumsised. People have tried to come up with bullshit reasons forever, but they don't make any sense. It was just done to the majority of children in the US for aesthetic reasons or the fact that they parents want their kids to be like everyone else.

Banning it alltogether is ridiculous though. People should be able to make that choice in young adulthood, especially if they have a foreskin related problem. The rate of infant circumsision is going down as people get educated, just let it happen naturally.


It's not as clear cut as you'd think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_analysis_of_circumcision

The potential benefits listed there seem to be cancelled out entirely by the potential complications. Not only that, but half of those benefits are covered entirely by cleanliness and safe-sex, something everyone should have regardless.

It doesn't change the fact that you're not giving that child a choice about whether you're going to greatly mess with what will most likely become his favorite body part. That's silly.
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The Flaming Schnitzel
Title: Tsar of all Russias
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 11:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

My religion says nothing about circumcision so idk how I feel. My brother and all my cousins have been circumcised. I think it's typical in hospitals here....


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Lady_Satine
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 12:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm suddenly recalling a bit of dialogue from The Devil's Advocate
Keanu: I'd like to point your honor's attentention to [some law from the FDA].
Judge: But that's only a law governing kosher butchering.
Keanu: Exactly your honor.

FWIW, my parents never had mine cut so this doesn't bother/affect me much.


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aika
Title: Narcissist
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 12:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

lordsathien wrote:
FWIW, my parents never had mine cut so this doesn't bother/affect me much.

We should start a poll and learn about our other sydlexians.


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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 04:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well the vast majority of Sydlexians will either be cut or female, since it is, or at least was, standard practice at all hospitals to do it.


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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 04:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

aika wrote:
lordsathien wrote:
FWIW, my parents never had mine cut so this doesn't bother/affect me much.

We should start a poll and learn about our other sydlexians.

Worst spin off of the "What do YOU look like" thread ever.



 
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: May 21 2011 07:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
aika wrote:
lordsathien wrote:
FWIW, my parents never had mine cut so this doesn't bother/affect me much.

We should start a poll and learn about our other sydlexians.

Worst spin off of the "What do YOU look like" thread ever.

I get a feeling this would end in tears or something.


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Sehkmaenzo
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PostPosted: May 22 2011 01:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well, if that poll ever starts, it's pretty clear I'm gonna be on the losing side D:
But hey, I have, like, 0.5% more penis than you guys, so there Razz
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PostPosted: May 22 2011 03:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

Reading this thread made me cringe several times...


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aika
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PostPosted: May 22 2011 12:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
aika wrote:
lordsathien wrote:
FWIW, my parents never had mine cut so this doesn't bother/affect me much.

We should start a poll and learn about our other sydlexians.

Worst spin off of the "What do YOU look like" thread ever.

LOL.

I'd start it, but I don't have any ideas for a witty joke answer or two to include.

Err, also, that'd be a totally weird and creepy poll! Right? Right?


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Beach Bum
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PostPosted: May 22 2011 01:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I'm cut, and to be honest I don't really give a damn. In fact if anything it makes it easier on me. I tend to not grab a shower everyday because I have school or something and I get up later than planned and run out the door without one. Just less hassle for me really. Personally, in the unlikely scenario that I ever actually get married and have kids, I'd probably have the boys cut too. I don't see a reason not to.
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Cameron
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PostPosted: May 24 2011 08:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Beach Bum wrote:
Yeah I'm cut, and to be honest I don't really give a damn. In fact if anything it makes it easier on me. I tend to not grab a shower everyday because I have school or something and I get up later than planned and run out the door without one. Just less hassle for me really. Personally, in the unlikely scenario that I ever actually get married and have kids, I'd probably have the boys cut too. I don't see a reason not to.

I'm with Bummy on this one.


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