i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Where the fuck stands written that this laser is in any way dangerous? The article somehow indicates it with the last sentence but there is no reason given for that. Just because some morons where whining about CERN lately doesn't mean that every greater scientific discovery brings risks with it.

Eli Whitney's cotton gin maimed dozens if not hundreds of slaves. Oppenheimer, especially, discovered the deadly potential of his work and broke because of it. Nikola Tesla created terrestrial radio and a method of transferring energy globally and died penniless, his work seized by the US govt and, for the most part, kept under wraps even today. Every great scientific discovery carries risks, be it to the discoverer or the utilizers of that science. That's called the "price of progress".

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Ok, cotton gin? What the fuck? Well whatever...

The cotton gin was a breakthrough advancement designed to ameliorate the large need for slaves. Before it's inception, there were six primary slave states. Due to the efficacy of it's ability to remove seeds/detrius from cotton, it increased productivity and lowered prices, thereby making cotton more in demand and a more widely-grown crop. The problem? More slaves were needed to operate it, thereby aggravating the existing problem. And the teeth and other portions of the interiors on many were shoddy, due to imprecise machining or just callousness. Might have been better than picking cotton freehand (if you've ever touched a live cotton plant, they're barbed and serrated all to shit).

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Oppenheimer knew what he was building when he developed the A-Bomb. He was just to ignorant to pay attention to the facts he already was aware of.

Of course he did. I never said he didn't. He was also completely changed when his device was used to murder millions, not once, but twice. Also, considering that again, they weren't certain that the first nucleofissile reaction would ever stop, that's quite a G-Damn risk.

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Tesla may have died as a poor man but overall he lived a happy life, at least according to the biography i red. Oh and the government keeps Teslas super secret inventions under wraps? Well, the truth is out there buddy.

Is that an X-Files reference, or do you have substantiative information regarding said inventions? I don't recall if Tesla lived to see Wardenclyffe dynamited, but he did live to see Edison outshine him in terms of recognition (despite Tesla's work being superior and, ultimately, what was adopted and now runs through every wall surrounding you, amongst others), Marconi get a patent for a device that he'd created years earlier (radio) and gradually watched his backers dissipate because of his rumored quackery. Sounds like a fucking hootenanny!

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Scientist all over the world are working on a brighter future for everyone. I'm not saying that science doesn't bring problems with it, Fukushima is the latest event that showed that. I'am just thinking that people should try to understand science before the claim that it is dangerous.

I will mail you a dollar and a photograph, signed, of me giving you the double-guns if you can substantiate this. My own take on the matter is that scientists all over the world are working on the newest means to generate the company for the unbridledly corrupt, untouchable mega-corps that make fortunes off of their intellectual capital, doling it out at dozens of times it's actual value. Qui bono?

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

He was changed after they used it? Well, he build it and it's only purpose is to kill millions of people. Maybe he thougth america would never use it, wich would only make him igonorant, naive and shortsighted.

Or, you know, maybe the thought that it could act as a deterrent would have been sufficient, which is apparently what they were hoping for, according to what I've read about it? Maybe a little skeptical that the President would authorize actually 'using' the weapon that would kill millions?

Edit: I came off as way overly vituperative on this part, and for what it's worth, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be a pedagogue or a dickhead.

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

I was making fun of you. Conspiracy Theorys are nothing but stupid fairy tales based on a lack of information and paranoia.

Bullshit. Admittedly, roughly 95% of all conspiracy theories (as well as everything else, if you ascribe to Sturgeon's Law) are bullshit, but the machinations of callous or just downright evil people have existed for thousands of years and have predicated tons of human misery. CV the Tuskeegee Experiment, Project MK-ULTRA, the Rongelap Atoll experiments on Marshall Islanders, Saenger's whole body radiation experiments on African-American cancer patients and a host of others; that's just considering medical conspiracies conducted in the US in the past 100 years, and that's a smattering of them. These things that do come to light are conducted by people whose histories look like a fucking demon's resume!

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Why should i substantiate that. Of course to claim that scienctist only bring up useful and reasonable inventions to the aid of mankind is utterly stupid. But at least the make something happen and some things help people to carry the weigth of their daily problems. I'm also very curious what kind of technologys they'll come up in the future for producing energy and that laser could reveal a massiv energy wich could solve many problems of the world.

I'm certainly in the futurist camp right there with you, but in order to do this as is projected now, it'll take more energy than we can provide to power it. And again, if it's weaponized or the like, cui bono? Not us.