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MONTGOMERY -- Gov.-elect Robert Bentley in a speech at a Baptist church this afternoon said he plans to be the governor of all Alabamians and be color-blind, but he also said people who aren't ''saved" Christians aren't his brothers and sisters.

Bentley told a big crowd at Dexter Avenue King Memorial Baptist Church, where the late civil rights leader Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. once was pastor, that he believed it was important for Alabamians ''that we love and care for each other."

''I was elected as a Republican candidate. But once I became governor ... I became the governor of all the people. I intend to live up to that. I am color blind," Bentley said in a short speech given about an hour after he took the oath of office as governor.

Then Bentley, who for years has been a deacon at First Baptist Church in Tuscaloosa, gave what sounded like an altar call.

"There may be some people here today who do not have living within them the Holy Spirit," Bentley said. ''But if you have been adopted in God's family like I have, and like you have if you're a Christian and if you're saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister."

Bentley added, ''Now I will have to say that, if we don't have the same daddy, we're not brothers and sisters. So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother."

Asked later if he meant to be insulting to people of other faiths, Bentley replied, ''We're not trying to insult anybody."

Bentley's communications director, Rebekah Caldwell Mason, when asked about Bentley's comments said, ''He is the governor of all the people, Christians, non-Christians alike."

Bentley in his speech also told the crowd, which was celebrating King's birthday, that, ''I think that Dr. Martin Luther King was one of the greatest men that has ever lived."

''I appreciate what he has done for not only the African-American community but for the white community, because he helped everything to change, even though he had to give his life for it," Bentley said.

Bentley then said he would work to help Alabamians whether they live in Wilcox County, where many poor blacks live, or Mountain Brook, where many upper-income whites live.

''You know, (for) a lot of people, it's hard to trust a Republican governor," Bentley said. ''Let me tell you. I want to tell you today that I promise you that I'm going to do everything I can for everybody in this state."

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2011/01/gov-elect_robert_bentley_inten.html

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"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

Treaty of Tripoli, 1796. Submitted by president John Adams, ratified unanimously by the Senate, and reprinted throughout the United States with no evidence of any discontent.

I will never, in my entire life, vote for a "Christian Nation" politician

Posted: Jan 19 2011 01:25 pm

Uh... Seperation of Church and State anyone?

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Holy shit! Everyone grab your guns and bombs, this guys a radical! He's gonna force his religion down our throats and attack us with the whole state of Alabama running behind him! It truly bothers me that if I'm not the same religion as this guy then he doesn't like me!

Gimme a fucking break. Rolling Eyes

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joshwoodzy wrote:

Holy shit! Everyone grab your guns and bombs, this guys a radical! He's gonna force his religion down our throats and attack us with the whole state of Alabama running behind him! It truly bothers me that if I'm not the same religion as this guy then he doesn't like me!

Gimme a fucking break. Rolling Eyes

...What?

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

It's being a little overblown in my opinion, basically. Why does this still bother people? Is anyone surprised that the governor of backwater Alabama is a Christian and only wants to be friends with Christians? What year is this?

Posted: Jan 19 2011 01:45 pm

joshwoodzy wrote:

Gimme a fucking break. Rolling Eyes

No, but when this guy makes pop-shot comments like that, makes you wonder what he's going to make decisions based off of.

EDIT:

joshwoodzy wrote:

What year is this?

Thats Exactly my point. This shouldn't be something, someone who GOVERNS over a mass amount of people, should be saying.

It points towards Favoritism

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joshwoodzy wrote:

Why does this still bother people? Is anyone surprised that the governor of backwater Alabama is a Christian and only wants to be friends with Christians?

I'm not surprised but still very bothered. If the governor of Alabama had flunked out of highschool that would still bother me, but I wouldn't be surprised. Here we have a guy running one of our states with a philosophy that was created in a time when people wiped their asses with a sponge on a stick. And this is in a country where one of the reasons for its creation was to escape stupid shit like this.

Backwater Alabama will stay backwater as long as they are ruled by people like this.

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:01 pm

I have to concur with Atma and the general consensus. Imagine if a Jewish or Muslim politician said that about members of their faith. Fox News would have an aneurysm.

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Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Backwater Alabama will stay backwater as long as they are ruled by people like this.

Says the guy who lives in Utah.

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:03 pm

joshwoodzy wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Backwater Alabama will stay backwater as long as they are ruled by people like this.

Says the guy who lives in Utah.

The difference is, Utah doesn't come out and say things like that Wink

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I'm clearly bullshitting the dude anyways. Don't take offense, Strangelove.

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joshwoodzy wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Backwater Alabama will stay backwater as long as they are ruled by people like this.

Says the guy who lives in Utah.

I think this gives me some credibility on the subject of religion in government. Every year we loose lots of tourist money to colorado because people don't want to deal with our wacky alcohol laws. Our schools have, last time I checked, the lowest funding of any state in the nation because the church actively supports the extreme right wing of politics, and if the church supports it, so does the state of Utah. Hell, our state celebrated the 4th of july on the 3rd last year, because the third was on a sunday. That's just offensive.

joshwoodzy wrote:

I'm clearly bullshitting the dude anyways. Don't take offense, Strangelove.

I don't take offense, don't worry.

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:09 pm

People like this act as if there aren't anymore Christians outside of L.A. or NYC. We're still a christian nation and will always considered one till the end of time.

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Deadmau_5pra wrote:

People like this act as if there aren't anymore Christians outside of L.A. or NYC. We're still a christian nation and will always considered one till the end of time.

We never have been a "Christian Nation" and hopefully never will be. See my post higher up on the page. Sure most Americans are Christian, but most Americans are White too. Does that make us a White nation?

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Calm down dude. There is no reason to assume "Christian Nation" is a bad thing just because of a bunch of racists and bigots that give the Christian religion a bad name in this country.

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:21 pm

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

People like this act as if there aren't anymore Christians outside of L.A. or NYC. We're still a christian nation and will always considered one till the end of time.

We never have been a "Christian Nation" and hopefully never will be. See my post higher up on the page. Sure most Americans are Christian, but most Americans are White too. Does that make us a White nation?

I'm saying that most of the practices, customs, and laws that have come and gone within this country , from within would make us a Christian nation by perception. I really don't have a problem per se about it either way, I'm just saying that to many this country was "founded" by people of that particular faith.

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joshwoodzy wrote:

Calm down dude. There is no reason to assume "Christian Nation" is a bad thing just because of a bunch of racists and bigots that give the Christian religion a bad name in this country.

I'm not angry or anything, this is just something I feel is extremely important for me. It's probably my number one political issue that I care about. It's not that I think christianity is bad, it's that I don't like the idea of the USA being a Christian nation. I would hate it just as much if it were a Muslim nation or a Buddhist naiton or anything else. Religion has absolutely no place in any government, least of all ours

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

People like this act as if there aren't anymore Christians outside of L.A. or NYC. We're still a christian nation and will always considered one till the end of time.

We never have been a "Christian Nation" and hopefully never will be. See my post higher up on the page. Sure most Americans are Christian, but most Americans are White too. Does that make us a White nation?

I'm saying that most of the practices, customs, and laws that have come and gone within this country , from within would make us a Christian nation by perception. I really don't have a problem per se about it either way, I'm just saying that to many this country was "founded" by people of that particular faith.

I don't think I understand what you mean by the phrase "Christian Nation". Would you mind defining it?

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:28 pm

I simply mean that Christianity is the favorite for America, that's why a lot of laws, killings, and social constructions have been set in place "under god" within this country.

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:31 pm

I agree that Religion has NO place in Government. Period.

All beliefs of anyone aside, no matter what Religion, as soon as that elected offical walks through the doors to go to work, his beliefs should be on the back burner.

He/She's only concerns should be that State's problems.

Now with that said, He never said he was going to Govern "Non-Believers" differently, but watch, as soon as there a decision made that APPEARS to benfit Christians only, that comment will be thrown in his face so quick it'll make his head spin.

Perception is everything.

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Deadmau_5pra wrote:

I simply mean that it's the favorite for America.

Favorite as in religion? As in America has a favorite religion, and that religion is Christianity? If so that's just wrong.

The whole "Under God" and "in god we trust" things were added as an Anti-communist measure in the 50s. If there is a law in this country, it has more to do (or should have) with social rammifications of having the law than just appeasing any deity.

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:39 pm

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

I simply mean that it's the favorite for America.

Favorite as in religion? As in America has a favorite religion, and that religion is Christianity? If so that's just wrong.

I worded that wrong, to put it simpler, why do you think some people there was a "War on Christmas" as oppose to "wars" on other holidays?

I'm saying that, because a huge chunk of our population is of the christian faith, they and others would assume that we are a christian nation, based on the laws that we pass, social taboos and things put in place to OTHER people and countries we would look as through we're a christian nation.

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Deadmau_5pra wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

I simply mean that it's the favorite for America.

Favorite as in religion? As in America has a favorite religion, and that religion is Christianity? If so that's just wrong.

I worded that wrong, to put it simpler, why do you think some people there was a "War on Christmas" as oppose to "wars" on other holidays?

I'm saying that, because a huge chunk of our population is of the christian faith, they and others would assume that we are a christian nation, based on the laws that we pass, social taboos and things put in place to OTHER people and countries we would look as through we're a christian nation.

There is a war on christmas because of 24-hour news networks with nothing better to do so they sensationalize stupid shit like that. If that is even a relevant topic we must have it pretty good here in america.

What laws do we pass that are based on Christianity?

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:47 pm

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deadmau_5pra wrote:

I simply mean that it's the favorite for America.

Favorite as in religion? As in America has a favorite religion, and that religion is Christianity? If so that's just wrong.

I worded that wrong, to put it simpler, why do you think some people there was a "War on Christmas" as oppose to "wars" on other holidays?

I'm saying that, because a huge chunk of our population is of the christian faith, they and others would assume that we are a christian nation, based on the laws that we pass, social taboos and things put in place to OTHER people and countries we would look as through we're a christian nation.

There is a war on christmas because of 24-hour news networks with nothing better to do so they sensationalize stupid shit like that. If that is even a relevant topic we must have it pretty good here in america.

What laws do we pass that are based on Christianity?

The only ones at this point I can think of at the top of my noddle are the ones involving the ten commandments.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr10cj.htm

If I find more, I'll be sure to get back at you with them. Smile

Posted: Jan 19 2011 02:51 pm

Eh, a LOT of Countries base their laws off of that, but I wouldn't say off of the Ten Commandments.

That's just basic Law to keep order in a Civilization.

If we didn't have the Ten Commandments, those laws would still be in effect.