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LordHuffnPuff
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PostPosted: Jan 08 2011 06:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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The first ever vaccine for drug addiction has just been created. By combining a cocaine-like molecule with part of the common cold virus, you get a vaccine that turns the immune system against cocaine, keeping it away from the brain.

So far, the vaccine has only been tested on mice, but the results are extraordinary. Mice given the vaccine no longer exhibited any of the hyperactive signs of a cocaine high when they were next given the drug. The vaccine was created by taking just the part of the cold virus that alerts the body's immune system to its presence, and then researchers connected the signalling mechanism to a more stable version of the cocaine molecule.

Once the mice received an injection of the vaccine, they started producing anti-cocaine antibodies which targeted and destroyed any cocaine that then entered their system. Normally, cocaine does not produce an immune response, leaving it free to wreak havoc on the brain and body of whoever takes it. But the cold virus segments taught the immune system to treat cocaine like a hostile invader, offering a nearly impregnable wall of protection from the cocaine's effects.

Researcher Ronald Crystal explains what this means:

"Our very dramatic data shows that we can protect mice against the effects of cocaine, and we think this approach could be very promising in fighting addiction in humans. While other attempts at producing immunity against cocaine have been tried, this is the first that will likely not require multiple, expensive infusions, and that can move quickly into human trials. There is currently no FDA (Food and Drug Administration) approved vaccine for any drug addiction.The vaccine may help [drug addicts] kick the habit, because if they use cocaine, an immune response will destroy the drug before it reaches the brain's pleasure center.


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PostPosted: Jan 08 2011 07:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wouldn't this cause a potential militant basehead uprising clamoring for an anti vaccine for the vaccine?



 
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PostPosted: Jan 08 2011 07:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Probably not. The DEA and other federal agencies make way too much money getting drugs off of major dealers and then putting them out on the market. People doing naughty things need their black budgets.


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PostPosted: Jan 08 2011 08:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Anti-Cocaine Vaccine sounds like an awesome metal band name, doesn't it?

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PostPosted: Jan 08 2011 09:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Treating drug problems with MORE drugs?? Right...


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PostPosted: Jan 08 2011 09:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My concern is withdrawal, it doesn't look like it affects the brain's dependancy on cocain, or the brain's urges to get more. In conjunction with some quitting program it seems like it'd be very effective.
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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 06:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

What a waste. Why don't we spend our resources on things that matter, like aids and cancer. People don't have to do coke, then they won't need a vaccine. Hell, I've done coke, and I don't want a vaccine!

Seriously, work on making antibodies for sicknesses that people can't really control wether they get or not, don't spend time and money trying to galvanize people from something that they should know now to do to begin with.


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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 11:49 am Reply with quote Back to top

great news. many people suffer of an cocaine addiction and this seems to be an exceptable solution. fuck drugs, anyway.


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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 11:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

Thus prompting dealers to come up with New Coke.


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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 11:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

probably vanilla coke.


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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 10:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

FNJ wrote:
What a waste. Why don't we spend our resources on things that matter, like aids and cancer. People don't have to do coke, then they won't need a vaccine. Hell, I've done coke, and I don't want a vaccine!

Seriously, work on making antibodies for sicknesses that people can't really control wether they get or not, don't spend time and money trying to galvanize people from something that they should know now to do to begin with.

While I can see your argument there are countless labs and scientists around the world working on those vaccines. However what this could lead to is something amazing. I can imagine that a nicotine vaccine would be possible with further research and then you alleviate cancer to an extent as well as health issues. Also sorry to hear you've done coke. I bet it was super awesome though. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 10:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

lordsathien wrote:
Thus prompting dealers to come up with New Coke.

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PostPosted: Jan 09 2011 11:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Good, now I can start doing coke without having to worry.


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 12:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

Douche McCallister wrote:
FNJ wrote:
What a waste. Why don't we spend our resources on things that matter, like aids and cancer. People don't have to do coke, then they won't need a vaccine. Hell, I've done coke, and I don't want a vaccine!

Seriously, work on making antibodies for sicknesses that people can't really control wether they get or not, don't spend time and money trying to galvanize people from something that they should know now to do to begin with.

While I can see your argument there are countless labs and scientists around the world working on those vaccines. However what this could lead to is something amazing. I can imagine that a nicotine vaccine would be possible with further research and then you alleviate cancer to an extent as well as health issues. Also sorry to hear you've done coke. I bet it was super awesome though. Rolling Eyes


the rolleyes is unnecessary.

What I'm saying is that if people don't want the side effects of things like nicotine, they should just not smoke to begin with. it's like breaking all of the windows in your house on purpose, and then spending the money to fix them. Just don't break the windows to begin with.

spending the time and money to make a vaccine for things like that is a pointless waste.


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 01:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

lordsathien wrote:
Thus prompting dealers to come up with New Coke.

Zing! Laughing


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 01:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

FNJ wrote:
Douche McCallister wrote:
FNJ wrote:
What a waste. Why don't we spend our resources on things that matter, like aids and cancer. People don't have to do coke, then they won't need a vaccine. Hell, I've done coke, and I don't want a vaccine!

Seriously, work on making antibodies for sicknesses that people can't really control wether they get or not, don't spend time and money trying to galvanize people from something that they should know now to do to begin with.

While I can see your argument there are countless labs and scientists around the world working on those vaccines. However what this could lead to is something amazing. I can imagine that a nicotine vaccine would be possible with further research and then you alleviate cancer to an extent as well as health issues. Also sorry to hear you've done coke. I bet it was super awesome though. Rolling Eyes


the rolleyes is unnecessary.

What I'm saying is that if people don't want the side effects of things like nicotine, they should just not smoke to begin with. it's like breaking all of the windows in your house on purpose, and then spending the money to fix them. Just don't break the windows to begin with.

spending the time and money to make a vaccine for things like that is a pointless waste.

I agree with FNJ. If you don't want it, don't have it!


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 03:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

You know what I'm sick off? All these amazing breakthroughs they're constantly making that only seem to work on mice. Seems like they can cure anything in rats, which would be great if rats were running the damn world. Start curing humans you asshole scientists.


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 05:28 am Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
You know what I'm sick off? All these amazing breakthroughs they're constantly making that only seem to work on mice. Seems like they can cure anything in rats, which would be great if rats were running the damn worldl. Start curing humans you asshole scientists.

THIS!


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Mr. Satire wrote:
sidewaydriver wrote:
You know what I'm sick off? All these amazing breakthroughs they're constantly making that only seem to work on mice. Seems like they can cure anything in rats, which would be great if rats were running the damn worldl. Start curing humans you asshole scientists.

THIS!

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FNJ wrote:
the rolleyes is unnecessary.

What I'm saying is that if people don't want the side effects of things like nicotine, they should just not smoke to begin with. it's like breaking all of the windows in your house on purpose, and then spending the money to fix them. Just don't break the windows to begin with.

spending the time and money to make a vaccine for things like that is a pointless waste.


people should just not start to take cocaine? well somethings happen, people are not able to control them a 100%. damn feelings! and people investing their lifetime to provide a vaccine to help people in very serious not to say fatal situations that can easely go that far to destroy an entire human existence is a waste? Are you insane?!


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i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:
FNJ wrote:
the rolleyes is unnecessary.

What I'm saying is that if people don't want the side effects of things like nicotine, they should just not smoke to begin with. it's like breaking all of the windows in your house on purpose, and then spending the money to fix them. Just don't break the windows to begin with.

spending the time and money to make a vaccine for things like that is a pointless waste.


people should just not start to take cocaine? well somethings happen, people are not able to control them a 100%. damn feelings! and people investing their lifetime to provide a vaccine to help people in very serious not to say fatal situations that can easely go that far to destroy an entire human existence is a waste? Are you insane?!


Don't talk to me like I'm a moron. I probably know more about these things than you do. people are rarely FORCED to do drugs like cocaine. If you're talking about stupid things like peer pressure, or being lead to believe that it's cool and harmless, then that's just idiocy.

there is plenty of research done on chemical dependency and human psychology. people can kick habits without needing an easy way out vaccine. people can also be intelligent enough to not get in the situation to begin with.

what happens when something like this becomes common fair? like laser tattoo removal surgery? "oh I guess I can just do this now, and get the vaccine later. fuck the consequences!"

it's much smarter to educate people and steer them away from that path, especially considering we have programs in place to help people who fall off the path. a giant reason that most people don't try drugs like this to begin with is because of the fear that they'd have to go down the path that it would take them on. if you create a wonder drug that takes care of that path, there's nothing stopping people from trying the drugs to begin with.

unless we are talking about this drug being mandatory, like given at birth or something, like when people just forgot Freddy Kruger existed and he stopped killing people.


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 03:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I have to side with Jew on this one. I don't know anyone who's had a gun held to their head and had someone say, "Now, you snort all of the expensive blow on this table or we're going to kill you!" except maybe a few people believed to be UCs. Prevention and education, not prohibition and inoculation, is the right way to do things. I'd say they should focus on curing cancer and AIDs/HIV, but let's face it: there's no money in that. Although the same could be said for getting rid of coke addiction...


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PostPosted: Jan 10 2011 03:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, whatever. lets agree to disagree. i think its a good thing.


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This isn't for the people that voluntarily do it because there is a cure, because nobody out there has that ability to be cured yet. I'm pretty sure children who are born from a cracked out mom didn't really want her to snort coke but guess what, they come out of the womb with addictions. How about the pessimistic assholes open up your minds and embrace technology and scientific breakthroughs. I can imagine a way to reverse permenant brain damage would also be frowned upon because they shouldn't have knowingly put themselves in those dangerous situations.

If there is an easier way of kicking a habit why wouldn't you embrace it. It would be like saying I'm going to climb this mountain to get to work even though I could simply walk through the tunnel they built.


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Douche McCallister wrote:
This isn't for the people that voluntarily do it because there is a cure, because nobody out there has that ability to be cured yet. I'm pretty sure children who are born from a cracked out mom didn't really want her to snort coke but guess what, they come out of the womb with addictions. How about the pessimistic assholes open up your minds and embrace technology and scientific breakthroughs. I can imagine a way to reverse permenant brain damage would also be frowned upon because they shouldn't have knowingly put themselves in those dangerous situations.

If there is an easier way of kicking a habit why wouldn't you embrace it. It would be like saying I'm going to climb this mountain to get to work even though I could simply walk through the tunnel they built.


The thing is, it's NOT an easier way of kicking a habit. It's a get out of jail free card, to put things into monopoly terms. You can kick a coke habit through conventional rehab. All this drug will do is downplay the negative effects of taking the drug to begin with. Sure, there might not be a cure right now, but what about after they continue following up on this research? This is nothing more than a bunch of intelligent people devoting themselves to figuring out something pointless, just because they can, instead of working on something that matters.

Reversing brain damage is a whole other ball game. getting hurt playing football or getting hit by a car is a little bit different than knowingly taking illegal, harmful substances. people SHOULD be working on reversing brain damage INSTEAD of making coke vaccines.

I may be a pessimistic asshole, but I'm far from being somebody who doesn't embrace scientific breakthrough, and I'm definitely not close minded. This whole vaccine thing is like dying of dehydration and using the water that you have to make a delicious instant cake instead of drinking it.


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