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Posted: Dec 16 2010 10:12 pm

I'am fucking drunk right now.
Everything that comes to my mind is that life has no meaning.
Do you agree? If not, give me a reason why it doesn't.
A real reason. Not like: Well, your familiy loves etc.
Fuck that!
A Reason. You know what I'am talking about.
Something that gives your life sense, not in relation to something.
A Reason that stands for itself.
Answer, the fuck!

Joined: Jun 08 2010 Location: Termina Field Posts: 1541

Like I haven't seen about a thousand of these!

Life exists because if it didn't, everything else would be pointless; time might as well skip to the heat death of the universe. I could explain more but I have no real patience with these kinds of discussions.

Posted: Dec 16 2010 10:37 pm

Go ask FNJ he'll know, he always knows......

Posted: Dec 16 2010 10:47 pm

Mr. Satire wrote:

Life exists because if it didn't, everything else would be pointless; time might as well skip to the heat death of the universe. I could explain more but I have no real patience with these kinds of discussions.

This is no valid reason.
I wait for FNJ.

Joined: Jun 08 2010 Location: Termina Field Posts: 1541

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Mr. Satire wrote:

Life exists because if it didn't, everything else would be pointless; time might as well skip to the heat death of the universe. I could explain more but I have no real patience with these kinds of discussions.

This is no valid reason.
I wait for FNJ.

How is that not a valid reason?! There always needs to be a point to something! Evil

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Dec 16 2010 11:03 pm

I'm also very curious as to the definition of a "valid" reason.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

I think this would be a better discussion if he wasn't drunk, first. -shrugs-

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Dec 16 2010 11:32 pm

Drew Linky wrote:

I think this would be a better discussion if he wasn't drunk, first. -shrugs-

No.

Posted: Dec 16 2010 11:59 pm

"Meaning" isn't an intrinsic value the way it seems you're asking for it be described. Life, like everything else in the universe, has whatever meaning you ascribe to it. If you can't think of any meaning to give to your life, then you should probably end it.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

Dr. Jeebus wrote:

"Meaning" isn't an intrinsic value the way it seems you're asking for it be described. Life, like everything else in the universe, has whatever meaning you ascribe to it. If you can't think of any meaning to give to your life, then you should probably end it.

... Ouch.

2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

I'am fucking drunk right now.
Everything that comes to my mind is that life has no meaning.
Do you agree? If not, give me a reason why it doesn't.
A real reason. Not like: Well, your familiy loves etc.
Fuck that!
A Reason. You know what I'am talking about.
Something that gives your life sense, not in relation to something.
A Reason that stands for itself.
Answer, the fuck!

so what's upsetting you? what brought you to the idea that life is meaningless?

Posted: Dec 17 2010 12:51 am

This has been said before and better.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 02:25 am

Enigmatheism bitches, the answer is "You Don't Know Why Life Exists, And , nomatter how disappointing that is, You will never know"
...just fucking deal with it and move on... Coincidentally, Enigmatheism is also a very good approach to religion Cool

Posted: Dec 17 2010 02:31 am

You know, I have an answer to this question.

I'm not religious. At ALL. I'm not one of those atheists that tells people they're stupid for believing in God, but let's suffice to say that I don't believe in God (more because I want proof, not because I'm an asshole). When you don't believe in God, you lose the afterlife package with it.

So that leaves oblivion. Cessation of consciousness. And you know what? As long as I wasn't in a minimally conscious state or a vegetable, I don't care if you have to stick tubes in every orifice of my body to keep me alive, just as long as I'm capable of thinking, KEEP ME ALIVE, because I'd rather be alive than to be literally, nothing but a rotting husk in the dirt.

So even if life has no meaning, death has nothing, period, and simply, I'd rather just fucking be alive.

2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

I believe that the purpose of life is to find meaning in life. Chew on that one for a while.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 02:51 am

Yes, Life is meaningless. Because of it's meaninglessness, however, the individual is forced to create and give it meaning. Otherwise, we'd know the meaning of life before ever deciding that it is meaningless. In stating that it is meaningless, you have given existence meaning and rendered your argument void. The only way life could be meaninless to the individual is if the individual was nonexistent, and thus, had no perception of life.
Life's meaning is what you (the individual) make of it, because it cannot be anything else but that, because there is no collective perspective of life, because then the individual could not give life meaning.
Fuck yeah philosophy.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 02:56 am

That is fucking stupid to say life is meaningless, it's not like you know, and if there is a meaning it is far beyond our comprehension, which means it's just bullshit to speculate on it... *cough* like god *cough* Cool

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:05 am

I'm speaking of a meaning i can understand with my mind.
a logic meaning. a emotional meaning.
a meaning to be recognized only by a human being.
something that redefines the path of humanity, something that redefines the course were going and the goal we are trying to reach.
For the individual as much as for the collective.
But there is no answer and we all know that.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:09 am

yep.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:11 am

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

For the individual as much as for the collective.
But there is no answer and we all know that.

No shit. There cannot be a meaning of life for "the collective" because the is no collective. Humanity is not a hive mind, each person is an individual. Individual perceptions of life, individual meanings. If we were a collective, we could have a collective meaning.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:12 am

again we all know there is one. its like there exists a chance of "reason" and "no reason" at the same time and only the decision for "reason" actually gives life "reason".

Edit: @Crazy_Bastard: There is individualism but there are also things people share. a meaning of life would be something that people share i guess. but your point is very interesting. an individual reason is a great idea, yet something harder to reach then an collective i would say.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:14 am

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

again we all know there is one. its like there exists a chance of "reason" and "no reason" at the same time

well...
A: Welcome to Quantum logic.
B: You don't know there is a meaning of life, just like you don't know if there is a god... you can BELIEVE there is a god, but thats a sad substitute for truth.

... Hey, Were the fuck is Syd?

isn't he a philosophy major?

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:16 am

Believing! I don't give shit to that. i need something i can understand. People who don't dare to try to understand believe. been all over that.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:19 am

Well you aren't going to find anything. You can't expand your comprehension no matter how hard you try, you are sadly limited as a puny human.

Just forget about the meaning of life and god, go exercise, do some charity work, find someone you can love, do it, make babies, then tell your kids what I told you, and then die old and wrinkly, and then maybe you will find out what you are asking.

Posted: Dec 17 2010 03:21 am

I'am going to find a reason. even all alone if it has to be that way.