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Lady_Satine
Title: Head of Lexian R&D
Joined: Oct 15 2005
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PostPosted: Dec 08 2010 05:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Pictured above is a map of Yellowstone National Park in the United States. Most of it is within the borders of Wyoming, but northern and western slivers lie within Montana and Idaho. University of Michigan law professor Brian C. Kalt has written a paper about why the piece within Idaho is the perfect place to commit a crime. Dan Lewis summarizes:

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Let’s say you, heaven forbid, are charged with a crime. The Constitution itself (Article III, Section 2 for those who wish to look it up) requires that the “Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed.” Pretty straight forward. The 6th Amendment requires that the jury must be “of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed.” Again, pretty clear. The only confusing part, unless you’re a lawyer, is probably the term “district.”

The U.S. Federal Courts are divided into zones called “districts” which correlate almost perfectly with states themselves. Connecticut has one district: the District of Connecticut. New York has four, using ordinal directions, e.g. “Southern District of New York” which includes Manhattan, the Bronx, and six counties in the state. Wyoming has one, as well, which includes the entire state — and, in addition, the parts of Yellowstone National Park which are in Idaho and Montana. And that’s where the perfect crime scene appears.

So that crime you’re charged with? Imagine you committed it in the part of Yellowstone which is actually in Idaho. Where would your jury come from? It would have to be from the state (Idaho) and district (the District of Wyoming) in which the crime was commited — in other words, from that same part of Yellowstone which is in Idaho. The population of that area?

Zero.


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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
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PostPosted: Dec 08 2010 06:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Looks like someone already tried this. The court pretty much said "Yeah, right."

Apparently someone wrote a book about it too.
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Shut up, Dorn
Title: White Chocolate
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PostPosted: Dec 08 2010 08:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

They'd get you anyways. Just because there's a jurisdiction loophole doesn't mean you won't get caught.


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Blackout
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Joined: Sep 01 2007
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PostPosted: Dec 08 2010 10:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah that shit stopped working around the time of Bundy.



 
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JRA
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Location: The Opium Trail
PostPosted: Dec 09 2010 01:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
Looks like someone already tried this. The court pretty much said "Yeah, right."


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Atma
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PostPosted: Dec 09 2010 02:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Still pretty interesting though. Oh loopholes. How you can fuck things up.
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Dec 09 2010 07:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vigilantes don't have to follow jurisdiction.


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Dec 09 2010 07:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, Batman is in Metropolis like every other day fighting crime.


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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
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PostPosted: Dec 09 2010 07:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, because Batman is breaking the law.

Clearly, he should only be fighting crime in the Idaho corner of Yellowstone.
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Dec 09 2010 08:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nah, there's probably already like five super heroes who claim that as their turf. It's like a mini Kingdom Come in there.


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