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Blackout
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 02:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well if so then this certainly points out why that would be a good idea Rydog.



 
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The Opponent
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 04:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
I wore a Trench Coat back in middle school (before Columbine mind you) and even though I didn't wear it anymore the day after that whole shit sandwich went down I got called in to the office and searched and monitored all the damn time afterwords.

I wore a trenchcoat well after the Virginia Tech incident because I'm not going to let a single dude who famously did it wrong influence my clothing choices. I already had a reputation as someone who shouldn't be talked to already (I never actually did anything special, other than being gifted, insulted a lot, and never talking to anyone), so I never got singled out for questioning, although I did hear of people spreading rumors that I planted bombs in the school or something that morning, even though I'm nowhere near the place it happened. Everyone was searched that morning before classes started "just in case", but I didn't feel special for it. I didn't learn why this happened until I got home from school, when I saw on the news that an Asian dude decided to shoot up his classmates and then himself, instantly implicating every Asian student in America as a crazed gunman for a day. I've never even owned a gun.

I still have the coat, but I've since outgrown it. I need a new one if I plan to continue hosting an air of intensely introverted lunacy.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 05:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well in all fairness, the reason I didn't wear mine the day after Columbine was I felt it would be in poor taste ( if you recall at the time the whole Trenchcoat Mafia crap was all over the news, wasn't till far later we found out that was bunk ) and I felt that it would attract unwanted attention to myself. Little did I know as soon as the shit storm went down and the phrase " OMG Trenchcoat" and " WTF Marilyn Manson" got bandied about on the news my school's management immediately thought "Hey, we have a few kids like that don't we?" and thus the bullshit began. The thing about other students starting rumors like you mentioned also happened too, big waste of my, and the administrative office's time if you ask me.

In retrospect I guess it wasn't that big of a hassle to me, but I still think they could have used their time and resources a little better to deal with the real problems, instead of jumping on the paranoia witch hunt bandwagon, but I guess that sentiment could appy to today's world as well. Confused

Also, I think we're getting off topic here. Wow why would Amazon sell a fucking book like that? OMG WTF right?



 
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 07:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, here's the problem now.

The book isn't for sale anymore.

But, it was.

Odds are that someone bought it. And, I am willing to bet once the controversy shitstorm hit, more people bough it. Even though it is no longer for sale, I am willing to bet someone will share the digital copy online, and the book will still be out there.

Hell, I'll bet even money, that at least one b/tard purchased it, and will be sharing the contents with the rest of 4chan.
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Natsu
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 09:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What exactly is the book about... is it about how to be a successful pedophile. Or is it just discussing what pedophilia is, the psychology of pedophiles, perhaps the trauma kids face of being the victim of such an assault, how to tell if your kids may have been a victim, what kids are more likely than others to be molested.

If it's the the first one, how to be a pedophile that's horrible, and I'm guessing it would be along those lines with the uproar, but you never know, if it's more about psychology of it all then I wouldn't have a problem with it. As long as they're not putting in a positive light or trying to encourage people/give people ways to commit such a horrible crime.
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The Opponent
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 09:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It was a guide for existing pedophiles and how they can act upon their targets with finesse. I don't think anyone needs any instructions on how to be turned on by minors. The kids make that easy enough. Have you seen the way they dress these days?


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 10:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I swear I saw this on a Law and Order SVU episode.
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The Opponent
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 10:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The-Excel wrote:
This reminds me of that one SVU episode about the guy who was planning to write a book about sexual activity between minors.

I think it ends with one of the kids killing the author and no one able to tell which one did.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2010 11:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The-Excel wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
This reminds me of that one SVU episode about the guy who was planning to write a book about sexual activity between minors.

I think it ends with one of the kids killing the author and no one able to tell which one did.

The one I remember has them bringing the publisher to court for murder when the kid the pedophile tried it on died.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 12:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
This reminds me of that one SVU episode about the guy who was planning to write a book about sexual activity between minors.

I think it ends with one of the kids killing the author and no one able to tell which one did.

The one I remember has them bringing the publisher to court for murder when the kid the pedophile tried it on died.

The episode was this: twin boys, were both circumcised at birth, but the doctor fucked up REALLY BAD on one of them. So, they gave him a vagina and made him take female hormones, at the advice of some doctor. But, the girl still felt like a boy, and was attracted to girls. So the doctor made her play sex games with her brother to help establish her gender role. When confronted about it by the SVU detectives, the doctor said he was writing a book about it. Later, the kids find out about what happened, and the girl stops taking her girl hormones. Once they're completely out of her system, she and her brother go to the movies. One of them sneaks out and kills the doctor. Since their DNA is identical, the detectives can't prove which one actually did the killing. So if they charge either one, they'll claim the other did it and walk away free via reasonable doubt.

I think the girl killed or injured a boy who tried to kiss her, which is what started the episode. They suspected her brother did it, because they found male DNA, then they found out the truth.
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 12:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Law and Order : Sydlexia Vagina Ultimate? Sydlexia Venereal Undercover? Sydlexia Venomous Ulcer?

Fuck it, I give up.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 10:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
UsaSatsui wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
This reminds me of that one SVU episode about the guy who was planning to write a book about sexual activity between minors.

I think it ends with one of the kids killing the author and no one able to tell which one did.

The one I remember has them bringing the publisher to court for murder when the kid the pedophile tried it on died.

The episode was this: twin boys, were both circumcised at birth, but the doctor fucked up REALLY BAD on one of them. So, they gave him a vagina and made him take female hormones, at the advice of some doctor. But, the girl still felt like a boy, and was attracted to girls. So the doctor made her play sex games with her brother to help establish her gender role. When confronted about it by the SVU detectives, the doctor said he was writing a book about it. Later, the kids find out about what happened, and the girl stops taking her girl hormones. Once they're completely out of her system, she and her brother go to the movies. One of them sneaks out and kills the doctor. Since their DNA is identical, the detectives can't prove which one actually did the killing. So if they charge either one, they'll claim the other did it and walk away free via reasonable doubt.

I think the girl killed or injured a boy who tried to kiss her, which is what started the episode. They suspected her brother did it, because they found male DNA, then they found out the truth.

That sounds completely implausible.

Still, it's an interesting way to bring up the "twin problem" with DNA.

Makes me wonder what Jack McCoy woulda done.

And Josh, you're probably joking around, but just in case you're not, it's Special Victims Unit.
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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 11:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

Good lord man, yes. I'm joking. I was poking at Syd's in depth knowledge of every SVU case. Razz


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 11:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzy wrote:
Good lord man, yes. I'm joking. I was poking at Syd's in depth knowledge of every SVU case. Razz

Can never be too careful. It's vital knowledge.
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aika
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 11:49 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd's depth of knowledge about SVU cases is new to me, but I've been marathoning through the entire fucking series over the last several weeks; I just reached season 8 the other day! Er, so, hopefully soon enough i will know as much as Syd does Very Happy

Also I'm not too sure on the specifics of law, but SVU told me that someone who uses speech (or writing) that knowingly instructs someone on how to commit a crime, who knows the person reading it will use that information to commit a crime, can be charged as an accessory to said crime, or for facilitating the crime. The SVU episode I'm thinking of is one where a pedophile is bombarded with emails from a porn site that uses technology to digitally alter their models to make them look younger. One of the things on their site was a story with photographs called The Story Of Janet, where Janet is kidnapped and raped; the story reads like a how-to on said kidnapping and rape. Anyway, the pedophile eventually gives in, subscribes to the porn site, reads The Story Of Janet, and then goes out and does exactly what the story says. The porn company's owner is then put on trial for facilitating kidnapping, rape, and murder.

There's a lot of arguing in the episode about free speech, and while I do agree that free speech is incredibly important, I think protecting someone's right to publish information on how to be a better pedophile is a bit much. Wasn't the initial point behind free speech to allow people to speak their mind without the government throwing them in jail for dissenting? I think disagreeing with the government and instructing people on pedophilia are in two different categories entirely, and I'm not sure the latter is fair game.


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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 12:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
Hell, I'll bet even money, that at least one b/tard purchased it, and will be sharing the contents with the rest of 4chan.

Finally, a chance to stretch my 4chan muscles. I'll keep a watch on that shit.

Also, it's not like this isn't already happening. What crazy ass hat decided to make it worse by making a how-to book for that sort of crap?!
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 02:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
UsaSatsui wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
The-Excel wrote:
This reminds me of that one SVU episode about the guy who was planning to write a book about sexual activity between minors.

I think it ends with one of the kids killing the author and no one able to tell which one did.

The one I remember has them bringing the publisher to court for murder when the kid the pedophile tried it on died.

The episode was this: twin boys, were both circumcised at birth, but the doctor fucked up REALLY BAD on one of them. So, they gave him a vagina and made him take female hormones, at the advice of some doctor. But, the girl still felt like a boy, and was attracted to girls. So the doctor made her play sex games with her brother to help establish her gender role. When confronted about it by the SVU detectives, the doctor said he was writing a book about it. Later, the kids find out about what happened, and the girl stops taking her girl hormones. Once they're completely out of her system, she and her brother go to the movies. One of them sneaks out and kills the doctor. Since their DNA is identical, the detectives can't prove which one actually did the killing. So if they charge either one, they'll claim the other did it and walk away free via reasonable doubt.

I think the girl killed or injured a boy who tried to kiss her, which is what started the episode. They suspected her brother did it, because they found male DNA, then they found out the truth.

That was a good episode.


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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 05:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The Anarchist's Cookbook deserves to be banned. It's also filled with outdated and incorrect information.


The newer Anarchist's cookbooks written/updated by The jolly roger are pretty damn good and I haven't seen anything that doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 05:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You probably shouldn't advertise that you have a highly illegal text document in your possession. No... just no.


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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 05:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

books on crime and criminal psychology are incredibly helpful to students and law enforcement, but if it's just a book telling stories about pedophilia, then I can understand a company's decision to decide not to offer it.


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PostPosted: Nov 12 2010 08:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SVU is weird, i rather watch just plain Law and Order


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Nov 13 2010 01:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

So if I kidnap Jewel Staite and squirrel her away in my basement and something goes horribly wrong can I blame it on Syd?



 
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Anthraxinsoup
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PostPosted: Nov 13 2010 01:45 am Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzy wrote:
You probably shouldn't advertise that you have a highly illegal text document in your possession. No... just no.

It's not illegal, least not to my knowledge. You can write whatever you want(I believe), even if it is about illegal stuff.
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PostPosted: Nov 16 2010 09:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

The-Excel wrote:
This reminds me of that one SVU episode about the guy who was planning to write a book about sexual activity between minors.


This reminds me of mallrats, when the chick WAS writing the book on sex with minors.


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PostPosted: Nov 16 2010 11:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

IIRC, she was writing a book on the male sex drive, doing field work for it by sleeping with men of various ages, and she was 15.
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