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Devaluing the dollar


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Doddsino
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PostPosted: Oct 20 2010 01:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

So I had a strange conspiracy theory. Is it possible to devalue US currency in a possible attempt to pay off debt, or does debt carry inflation over time? It's been a long time since my last economics class, but I was shooting this idea around my head the other day. I felt with the cost of living going up and constantly raising minimum wage, there's always that possibility. Maybe I should put the tin foil hat on, or wipe the dust off my 11th grade Econ book.
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Optimist With Doubts
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PostPosted: Oct 20 2010 08:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

If the dollar went down wouldn't we have to borrow more money?


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PostPosted: Oct 20 2010 09:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
If the dollar went down wouldn't we have to borrow more money?

I think he's saying, take the dollor, increase minimum wage, causing you to have more money, and with more money your debts seem like less
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Oct 20 2010 10:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hacker wrote:
Optimist With Doubts wrote:
If the dollar went down wouldn't we have to borrow more money?

I think he's saying, take the dollor, increase minimum wage, causing you to have more money, and with more money your debts seem like less

No, that's not what he's saying at all. I think what he's saying is something along the lines of "print more money".

Won't work. If we printed more dollars, the value of each would go down. We'd end up owing more.
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Natsu
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PostPosted: Oct 20 2010 12:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think we could do that... we owe a fixed amount of money that is acquiring interest. We don't owe a certain value in gold we owe a certain number of dollars. So we could in theory print off a shit-ton and pay off our debts. That's what Germany did, or was forced to do after WWI and essentially their currency was worthless, there was so much of it everywhere that the material itself became worth more than the actual note.

It would hurt us a lot in the sheer internal functioning of our economy. I'm not sure all the ramifications aside from horrendous inflation making us need a suit case full of money to buy some bread that.
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Oct 20 2010 01:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Natsu wrote:
I think we could do that... we owe a fixed amount of money that is acquiring interest. We don't owe a certain value in gold we owe a certain number of dollars. So we could in theory print off a shit-ton and pay off our debts. That's what Germany did, or was forced to do after WWI and essentially their currency was worthless, there was so much of it everywhere that the material itself became worth more than the actual note.

It would hurt us a lot in the sheer internal functioning of our economy. I'm not sure all the ramifications aside from horrendous inflation making us need a suit case full of money to buy some bread that.

Yes, hyper-inflation would be the result. You can find pictures of Germans wallpapering their house with worthless paper marks. Zimbabwe is going through a similar crisis, to the point where other countries just stopped selling them the paper they print their money on, and they've completely abandoned their own currency.

A dollar bill is just like anything else out there, it's value is based upon how much there is and how badly people want it. If you print more, the supply goes up, it's worth less. Since it's worth less, people want it less, the demand goes down, it's worth less. Since it's worth less, you need more to cover your debts, so the government prints more, the value goes down again...it's not pretty.
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PostPosted: Oct 21 2010 12:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Oct 21 2010 12:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

You asked the question backwards. You wouldn't devalue US currency in an attempt to pay off debt, you'd devalue US currency as the result of print more to pay off the debt. Yes, it works. We could print trillions of dollars and immediately pay off all our nation's debts. It would also destroy our economy and probably result in us turning into a third world shithole in a span of 5 years or less.


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