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Castlevania: Lords of Shadow


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TheRoboSleuth
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 04:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, heres my opinion. I'm conflicted. Its the best 3D Castlevania game and not a bad modern action game, but it has weak music and its not until the mountain fortress before its starts becoming visually impressive, and then you still have to wait for the vampire section of the game before it delivers on the Gothic visuals the series is known for.

Its story is not very good until the twist ending, but the Castlevania games have never had good stories. You never fight Dracula, the Mummy, Death, or Frankenstein's monster, so I don't know if calling it Castlevania was even necessary. Most of the character building is narrated to you by Patrick Stewart, and the enemies rarely need a stronger strategy than "attack attack, dodge, block and counter". In that order specifically. That sends them into a blocking stance, you dodge the unblockable counterattack, and then block their normal attack afterwards for massive damage. They try a bunch of stuff that never quite sticks, like mounted combat and Shadow of the Collosus boss battles, which they discard by the fifth act. Most boss battles are QTEs and not even button specific, so completely pointless.

Did anyone else play this?


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SNESGuy
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 04:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Im kinda tired of God of War clones so im gonna pass on this one


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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 04:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I enjoy my Castlevania with a Symphony and a Night involved, so I passed.


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SteelBallRun
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 04:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I bought it and I'm in the same boat as you, cept' I'm not very far into the game. Many of the things that make Castlevania what it is aren't present, like the enemies, music, etc... and I'm not sure that was really necessary.

Personally, I think Curse of Darkness is still the best 3-D Castlevania, but this one is easily a close second.
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 05:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've never finished a Castlevania game that wasn't on the DS.


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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 07:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A CastleVania with weak music?! From the overall first review, it seems like I'm glad I can't play it. The 360 online multiplayer game still holds my interest however.


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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 07:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was skeptical of this game because of how all 3D Castlevania game are just terrible. Finally played the demo, beautiful visuals and all, especially on my 52' HD, but the gameplay...bleh & repetitive. I might wait until the price goes down on it some......


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PostPosted: Oct 13 2010 07:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Read the twist ending on Wikipedia. That seems it could be canon. Other than that, what a load of crap. Kojima is a pretentious, talentless douchebag and shouldn't have been let anywhere near Castlevania.

I hope they'll keep making handheld games that follow that primary Castlevania canon.
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TheRoboSleuth
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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 01:45 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Read the twist ending on Wikipedia. That seems it could be canon. Other than that, what a load of crap. Kojima is a pretentious, talentless douchebag and shouldn't have been let anywhere near Castlevania.

I hope they'll keep making handheld games that follow that primary Castlevania canon.

I almost kinda like the twist ending. Its never going to work for the sequel, but story wise its no less than anything else the series has done(hey, heres dracula, take care of that wouldya?).

I really really wish they would just make a proper giant modern 2D castlevania. Rendering enemies in 3D takes a lot more effort than people realize, what with all of the AI and whatnot. A sprite takes more effort to draw but its got a much simpler pattern to program and you have a fricken 10+ year library to draw from, it wouldnt be hard.

Really though its not a bad game. If I had to get pissed at it, it would be over the sort of gall that goes into complaining about how much a series has gotten stale, then stealing wholesale from other videogames while forgetting the big draws for the original.


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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 02:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

Robo Sleuth wrote:
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I really really wish they would just make a proper giant modern 2D castlevania.

Depends on what they do. I'd rather not see another Metroidvania game and instead make it like Dracula's Curse. Maybe port over some of the special command moves similar to what Alucard had in SOTN, but make it have levels and make it hard.
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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 04:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

SteelBallRun wrote:
Robo Sleuth wrote:
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I really really wish they would just make a proper giant modern 2D castlevania.


Depends on what they do. I'd rather not see another Metroidvania game and instead make it like Dracula's Curse. Maybe port over some of the special command moves similar to what Alucard had in SOTN, but make it have levels and make it hard.


QFT. Enough with that fucking Metroidvania vibe, I want another Bloodlines or Rondo of Blood!


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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 05:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

I haven't played the demo and I don't really plan to. This looks like it's Castlevania in name only, and I had a feeling it would be like that. It's God of War with a whip. Lament is my favorite 3D Castlevania, but I prefer the 2D titles.

Syd Lexia wrote:
I hope they'll keep making handheld games that follow that primary Castlevania canon.

A million times this. I love the DS games, even though I felt Order of Eclesia fell a little short. I hope another one comes out soon.


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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 03:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nekkoru wrote:
SteelBallRun wrote:
Robo Sleuth wrote:
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I really really wish they would just make a proper giant modern 2D castlevania.


Depends on what they do. I'd rather not see another Metroidvania game and instead make it like Dracula's Curse. Maybe port over some of the special command moves similar to what Alucard had in SOTN, but make it have levels and make it hard.


QFT. Enough with that fucking Metroidvania vibe, I want another Bloodlines or Rondo of Blood!

or Super Castlevania 4!
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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 05:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Super Castlevania 4!


God fuck no, Super Castlevania was too easy. I'm all for an easy fun game, but that was way too easy.
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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 08:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SteelBallRun wrote:
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Super Castlevania 4!


God fuck no, Super Castlevania was too easy. I'm all for an easy fun game, but that was way too easy.

I never beat it.......
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SteelBallRun
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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 09:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I haven't beaten the 3 on the NES, don't feel bad.
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PostPosted: Oct 14 2010 10:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I got preety damn close to beating the first on NES i think, it got to death and i kept dying and dying and dying so i turned it off and havent played it since


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PostPosted: Oct 15 2010 10:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

The original NES one is probably the toughest, though I haven't played Rondo or the MSX game, so I can't say that 100%.

Dracula's Curse was fairly tough depending on which paths you took and who your helper was, but I beat that as a kid. I never beat the original as a kid. The game was super easy until Level 4, at which point things got considerably tougher.
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PostPosted: Oct 15 2010 12:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The original NES one is probably the toughest, though I haven't played Rondo or the MSX game, so I can't say that 100%.

Dracula's Curse was fairly tough depending on which paths you took and who your helper was, but I beat that as a kid. I never beat the original as a kid. The game was super easy until Level 4, at which point things got considerably tougher.

Rondo I felt was pretty easy only because it was one of the four Castlevania games that I have beat.
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PostPosted: Oct 15 2010 03:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The original NES one is probably the toughest, though I haven't played Rondo or the MSX game, so I can't say that 100%.

Dracula's Curse was fairly tough depending on which paths you took and who your helper was, but I beat that as a kid. I never beat the original as a kid. The game was super easy until Level 4, at which point things got considerably tougher.

Ive beat 1 and 4 and draculas curse legit of the original types. 3 murders me, but it might be on account of taking a bad path or bad character.


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PostPosted: Oct 15 2010 03:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've beaten 3 solo and with every partner, along every path combination. I even figured out the HELPME name code could be grafted onto any existing password.


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PostPosted: Oct 16 2010 06:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The original NES one is probably the toughest, though I haven't played Rondo or the MSX game, so I can't say that 100%.

Dracula's Curse was fairly tough depending on which paths you took and who your helper was, but I beat that as a kid. I never beat the original as a kid. The game was super easy until Level 4, at which point things got considerably tougher.

Rondo's on the Virtual Console now, so there's nothing stopping you from beating some vampire ass.


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TheRoboSleuth wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
The original NES one is probably the toughest, though I haven't played Rondo or the MSX game, so I can't say that 100%.

Dracula's Curse was fairly tough depending on which paths you took and who your helper was, but I beat that as a kid. I never beat the original as a kid. The game was super easy until Level 4, at which point things got considerably tougher.

Ive beat 1 and 4 and draculas curse legit of the original types. 3 murders me, but it might be on account of taking a bad path or bad character.

Um... 3 is Dracula's Curse?
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PostPosted: Oct 16 2010 08:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
TheRoboSleuth wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
The original NES one is probably the toughest, though I haven't played Rondo or the MSX game, so I can't say that 100%.

Dracula's Curse was fairly tough depending on which paths you took and who your helper was, but I beat that as a kid. I never beat the original as a kid. The game was super easy until Level 4, at which point things got considerably tougher.

Ive beat 1 and 4 and draculas curse legit of the original types. 3 murders me, but it might be on account of taking a bad path or bad character.

Um... 3 is Dracula's Curse?

Wait I mean the one that came out on the supernintendo after 4. Most embarrasing. Embarrassed


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PostPosted: Oct 16 2010 08:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dracula X, the abridged version of Rondo of Blood.
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