Syd Lexia wrote:

According to Wikipedia, Jesus died roughly around 30 AD, though perhaps as early as 26 AD, and he could have born as early 6 BC. Meanwhile, Peter is generally agreed to have established himself as Cardinal of Rome in 33 AD with a high degree of certainty.

Actually I think youre correct, the christian congregation was founded on Pentecost 33 C.E.

Christ didn't officially become "Christ" until his baptism on 29 C.E. (the fifteenth year of Tiberius Ceasar) Luke 3:1 - 21

if you follow the chronology of the gospels you find that Christ's teaching campaign would only last 3.5 years, which takes us to 33 C.E., shortly after Christs death is when the Apostles are given the "Keys to the kingdom" as is described in the book of Acts.

This also is in line with the prophetic words of the prophet Daniel.

In all fairness, the catholic church does have a lot of blood on its hands :p. like technically, if this conversation was happening a few centuries ago... all of us non catholics would be murdered for heresy...

my personal beliefs

Arianism
I dont believe in Hell
I dont believe in the use of a crucifix
I dont believe in an afterlife

those reasons alone would be more then enough evidence to burn me at the stake as a heretic


Is that a force for good?? Kill anyone who doesnt follow what we do? regardless of what kind of person they may be? Many good and innocent people were murdered over the centuries that the catholic church was the dominant institution in the western world...

dont get me wrong, they arent the only religion thats bloodguilty but I would hardly call the catholic church a force of good

Not to mention their ties with the Mafia and the "bank of god" being investigated for alleged money laundering...

The reason that Catholics dont go murdering everyone at the stake for heresy anymore is because they arent allowed, they would be prosecuted and sent to jail for first degree murder. When Tudor England rebelled against the catholic church it was a serious blow to their power and eventually governments decided that they would be better off without religions involvement...

The church's power has often been challenged in the past though by the few bold and daring men that tried their best to search for truth in scripture

guys like Martin Luther and Sir Isaac Newton, it took courage to stand against such a terrible organization (im not saying catholicism is as terrible now but in the middle ages it really was an evil organization)

The fact that Isaac Newtons works werent published until his death bed for fear of what would happen to him is proof that the church still had an incredible amount of power over the world.

He may not of been killed for his beliefs at that time but he would of lost everything else that he had.

look no further then wikipedia

"It is perhaps worth pointing out that Newton — like many contemporaries — would have faced severe punishment - see Thomas Aikenhead - if he would have been open about his religious beliefs, as harmlessly heretic as they appear to us today. Heresy was a crime that could have been punishable by the loss of all property and status or even death, although given Newton's stature it is unlikely that such a sentence would have been carried out."

He may not of been punished but he also just as likely could of been as well, so he had to keep his writing secret until the day of his death.

moving on

I agree with some of what newton had to Say... the christian faith went far astray in the 4th century when they stopped teaching what 1st century christians taught and believed.

The Trinity itself is completely flawed as well as the belief in an immortal soul, hellfire, the crucifix, easter, christmas, halloween... all of it ties into paganis,m and all of these teachings and festivals were adopted into christianity to get the romans to accept christianity as their one faith.

First century christians also never went to war and remained politically neutral