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Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

It is here and critics are enamored by it.

I played Civ 2 back in the day and didn't touch the series again until recently when I picked up Civ 4 for dirt cheap on sale. I didn't really get into it, so I'm going to wait to hear what other players thing before thinking about picking up Civ 5.

Website: http://www.civilization5.com/
Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/8930/
Metacritic (94/100): http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/sid-meiers-civilization-v
Game Rankings: http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/938528-sid-meiers-civilization-v/index.html

Posted: Sep 21 2010 11:15 am

I haven't played any Civilization since 2. Can you build casinos yet?

Joined: Aug 04 2009 Posts: 2515

I bought 4 in a sale too and i installed it but then got bogged down in how much you need to know to play.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

I have only played 1 and 2. Hell, I still play Civ 2 when there isn't anything else to do, and it's aged so well. The fact that Steam has something to do with it and the fact that I'd probably have to upgrade my computer to run it makes me a sad panda. I'm usually behind the times so much that I won't play 3 for another couple years, 4 even later, etc, etc.. so no worries, I'll play it in 20 years when I'm 46.

Posted: Sep 21 2010 11:43 am

You really don't need to know that much to play Civ 4. If you go through the tutorial and dive into a few games, it's fairly easy to learn. It's worth the effort, trust me.

I love Civ 4 and played it to death, so I can't wait for Civ 5. I was afraid they would dumb it down in favor of enticing new players and streamlining the gameplay, but it seems they managed to keep it just as deep as it ever was while trimming the strategic fat.
It's awesome to see critics having such good things to say about it, which means I'll be getting it as soon as I can afford it.

Joined: Aug 04 2009 Posts: 2515

My bad it's actually civ3 i have. I thought i had 4... I'm installing it now. I hope there is tutorials lol.

Posted: Sep 22 2010 05:04 am

There is. And if you're still confused about the game; like I said, just put it on Noble difficulty and dive right in. You'll get the hang of it.

Also, check out this site: http://garath.net/Sullla/civ4.html
It's authored by one of the main testers from Civ4's development, which has an introduction/walkthrough section where he explains the ins and outs of Civ4 and is basically another tutorial. It's great for new players.

The site also has a ton of single-player and multi-player Civ4 games that he played and wrote up in great detail with screenshots, that not only are fun and fascinating reads by themselves because many of them have interesting twists or made-up rules, but really teach you some advanced skills and tactics too.

Posted: Sep 22 2010 09:20 am

I've played Civilization since CivNet and spent many, many nights going for that "one more turn". I hate it to some degree, going to bed at 6am when you have to study and whatnot.

I'm pretty excited about Civ5. I liked the changes introduced in 4, I hope they keep the formula more or less the same.

Also, I hope again for Leonard Nimoy's voiceovers!

Joined: Sep 25 2009 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 395

Leonard Nimoy is gone or so I heard. Civ 4 is a fantastic game with its expansions, and I would recommend everybody check it out. For Civ 5, I would probably wait a bit, as they have removed concepts like religion and espionage, probably so that they can reintroduce them as DLC which pisses me of, as I already had those functions in civ 4. As it looks now, there is no question that civ 5 is a great game, the question is however if it is even better than civ 4. From what I have read, it is unfortunately not. Not yet.

Posted: Sep 22 2010 01:36 pm

Do you need a kickass computer to play it? My laptop has 4GB of RAM, I think. Not sure about the videocard.....it's a factory Toshiba.

Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

System Requirements

Minimum:
o OS: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
o Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
o Memory: 2GB RAM
o Graphics:256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics
o DirectX®: DirectX® version 9.0c
o Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
o Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

Recommended:
o OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
o Processor: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU
o Memory: 4 GB RAM
o Graphics: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better
o DirectX®: DirectX® version 11
o Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
o Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

Posted: Sep 22 2010 03:45 pm

taterfyrings wrote:

For Civ 5, I would probably wait a bit, as they have removed concepts like religion and espionage, probably so that they can reintroduce them as DLC which pisses me of, as I already had those functions in civ 4. As it looks now, there is no question that civ 5 is a great game, the question is however if it is even better than civ 4. From what I have read, it is unfortunately not. Not yet.

Huh, everything I've read says it's the best Civ to date that surpasses and improves Civ 4.

Also, espionage in Civ 4 was an afterthought anyway that was introduced by a different development team than the one who did the core game. It was always a bit of fat, so it's good that it was removed.

Posted: Sep 23 2010 12:24 pm

ooo, when I get my computer fixed I am so running great settings, can't wait

Posted: Sep 23 2010 01:44 pm

GPFontaine wrote:

System Requirements

Minimum:
o OS: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
o Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
o Memory: 2GB RAM
o Graphics:256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics
o DirectX®: DirectX® version 9.0c
o Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
o Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

Recommended:
o OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
o Processor: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU
o Memory: 4 GB RAM
o Graphics: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better
o DirectX®: DirectX® version 11
o Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
o Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

I'm not really good at interpreting this stuff. Is there a way I could retrieve this info from my computer and post it here so you guys can tell me if I can run it?

Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

GPFontaine wrote:

System Requirements

Minimum:
o OS: Windows® XP SP3/ Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
o Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or AMD Athlon X2 64 2.0 GHz
o Memory: 2GB RAM
o Graphics:256 MB ATI HD2600 XT or better, 256 MB nVidia 7900 GS or better, or Core i3 or better integrated graphics
o DirectX®: DirectX® version 9.0c
o Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
o Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

Recommended:
o OS: Windows® Vista SP2/ Windows® 7
o Processor: 1.8 GHz Quad Core CPU
o Memory: 4 GB RAM
o Graphics: 512 MB ATI 4800 series or better, 512 MB nVidia 9800 series or better
o DirectX®: DirectX® version 11
o Hard Drive: 8 GB Free
o Sound: DirectX 9.0c-compatible sound card

I'm not really good at interpreting this stuff. Is there a way I could retrieve this info from my computer and post it here so you guys can tell me if I can run it?

Sure thing.

Download this:
http://www.piriform.com/speccy

Run it, and then save a TXT file. Copy and paste the first section and that should do the trick.

Posted: Sep 23 2010 11:51 pm

Here it is:

============================================================

Summary
Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i3 330M @ 2.13GHz 50 °C
Arrandale 32nm Technology
RAM
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 533MHz (7-7-7-20)
Motherboard
TOSHIBA Portable PC (CPU)
Graphics
Generic PnP Monitor @ 1366x768
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Hard Drives
488GB Hitachi Hitachi HTS545050B9A300 (IDE) 37 °C
Optical Drives
MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ890ES
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Installation Date: 06 March 2010, 12:24

Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

Here it is:

============================================================

Summary
Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i3 330M @ 2.13GHz 50 °C
Arrandale 32nm Technology
RAM
4.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 533MHz (7-7-7-20)
Motherboard
TOSHIBA Portable PC (CPU)
Graphics
Generic PnP Monitor @ 1366x768
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Hard Drives
488GB Hitachi Hitachi HTS545050B9A300 (IDE) 37 °C
Optical Drives
MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ890ES
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio
Operating System
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Installation Date: 06 March 2010, 12:24

You meet the minimum system requirements. The graphics will not be able to run at 100%, but you can play the game. The video card you have is the exact minimum one they require. "Core i3 or better integrated graphics". You meet the OS, the CPU, Hard Drive, and Memory requirements.

Posted: Sep 24 2010 10:27 am

I've been a console gamer my whole life, so I'm not really familiar with what playing games at reduced settings would be like. Do you think it would still be enjoyable playing it on the minimal settings? I know Civilization isn't an action game, and thus graphics probably aren't that big of a deal.

Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

I've been a console gamer my whole life, so I'm not really familiar with what playing games at reduced settings would be like. Do you think it would still be enjoyable playing it on the minimal settings? I know Civilization isn't an action game, and thus graphics probably aren't that big of a deal.

Ice,

I suggest you try the demo.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/8930/ The Demo is available via a gray button on the right side of the page.

Posted: Sep 24 2010 11:07 am

GPFontaine wrote:

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

I've been a console gamer my whole life, so I'm not really familiar with what playing games at reduced settings would be like. Do you think it would still be enjoyable playing it on the minimal settings? I know Civilization isn't an action game, and thus graphics probably aren't that big of a deal.

Ice,

I suggest you try the demo.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/8930/ The Demo is available via a gray button on the right side of the page.

Will check it out when I get home. Thanks GP!

Joined: Jun 10 2008 Posts: 172

Ive enjoyed it so far, I miss the addition of the map editor where you can kind of chear your way to a great starting location. Combat is really REALLY fun in it.

Posted: Sep 24 2010 12:29 pm

APLETHORAOFPINATAS wrote:

Ive enjoyed it so far, I miss the addition of the map editor where you can kind of chear your way to a great starting location. Combat is really REALLY fun in it.

What's the combat like? In the only version of Civ that I've played (I'm not sure, but it was probably the first one) your characters were just square blocks that moved across the screen. "Combat" was one block sliding onto another, and one of them would die. I take it the combat is a lot more involved now?

Posted: Sep 24 2010 04:23 pm

APLETHORAOFPINATAS wrote:

Ive enjoyed it so far, I miss the addition of the map editor where you can kind of chear your way to a great starting location. Combat is really REALLY fun in it.

There's an option now to adjust how good your starting location is when you start up a new game, which is basically the same as using the map editor.

Posted: Sep 25 2010 03:19 pm

Just played through the demo......love it! Definitely buying it. It seems very deep, but the in-game tutorials do a good job of explaining everything.

Joined: Sep 25 2009 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 395

Pandajuice wrote:

Huh, everything I've read says it's the best Civ to date that surpasses and improves Civ 4.

Also, espionage in Civ 4 was an afterthought anyway that was introduced by a different development team than the one who did the core game. It was always a bit of fat, so it's good that it was removed.

Well, all the reviews are positive, but if you want to see rage then you should check out the various civ-dedicated forums around the net. They are full of threads complaining about bugs, strange decisions, terrible UI, even worse AI, and a general feel that the game is "dumbed-down" to appeal to a broader market.

However, I do believe the game will be great, eventually. It will just cost us some time and a few expansions.

Btw, I do agree espionage in civ4 was annoying Smile