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aika
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The title doesn't get much better when you read the article.
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/09/07/rape-victims-forced-to-undergo-finger-test-to-gauge-their-sexual-history/
This is happening in India:
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| … a doctor insert[s] fingers in a rape victim’s vagina to determine the presence or absence of the hymen and the so-called “laxity” of the vagina. These findings perpetuate false and damaging stereotypes of rape survivors as “loose” women. Defense attorneys use the findings to challenge the credibility, character, and the lack of consent of the survivors. |
The article goes on to say that even though the Indian Supreme Court ruled that these tests are not admissible in court, many doctors still perform the procedure and lawyers still use the results to raise questions about the sexual history of the woman claiming rape. It goes on to give some really heart-rending examples of women who had the test done; one was found to be "habituated to intercourse" and thus her character was called into question during the trial; another was bleeding and still torn from being raped, and the doctor went on to decide she had probably been a virgin, which somehow led credence to her rape claim.
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The report points out that doctors conduct the exam with little concern for the emotional or physical well-being of their patients. “Inserting fingers into the vaginal or anal orifice of an adult or child survivor of sexual violence during a forensic examination can cause additional trauma, as it not only mimics the abuse but can also be painful.”
In a sick twist, victims who don’t experience pain during the test may be deemed “habituated to sex.” |
My heart goes out to the women in India who have to endure this barbaric examination. Rape is such a complete violation of one's own personal space, body, mind, everything; to have it worsened by doctors cramming their fingers into the victim's body to do some sort of arbitrary "looseness test" to decide if the woman is easy or not just is just... beyond words.
It kills me that something like this is happening in this day in age. Guess we all still have a long way to go.
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Blackout
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What about dudes, do the test them too?
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Douche McCallister
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Men can't be raped. We can only be pleasured.
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FNJ
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somebody hasn't seen american history x, clearly.
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JRA
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or Pulp Fiction.
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SNESGuy
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Or Broke back mountain yesshhh
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Pandajuice
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Yeah, it turns out places like India and the Middle East are still pretty behind the rest of the world culturally, so this isn't much of a surprise. That's why they are shitty cultures and should be reformed.
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Syd Lexia
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Maybe it's us who have to reform. If the rest of the world wants to play "blame the victim" in the rape cases, give women no rights in divorce, and force them to cover up in public, maybe it's us who are behind the times.
...seriously though, this is fucked up. Still not as bad as the shit that goes on in Congo, though.
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Thunderhorse
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| ...seriously though, this is fucked up. Still not as bad as the shit that goes on in Congo, though. |
Hmm? What do they do in the Congo?
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Atma
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| ...seriously though, this is fucked up. Still not as bad as the shit that goes on in Congo, though. |
Hmm? What do they do in the Congo? |
Assuming hes talking about the cutting off of the clitoris.
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Syd Lexia
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Warlords and their soldiers will also sometimes rape an entire village's women into complacency.
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UsaSatsui
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This is not too far off on what a rape victim had to go through 30 or 40 years or so ago in -this- country. Maybe not physically, but a woman who was raped was subject to having her entire sexual history investigated and brought up in court.
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Slayer1
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| Thunderhorse wrote: |
| Atma wrote: |
| Thunderhorse wrote: |
| Syd Lexia wrote: |
| ...seriously though, this is fucked up. Still not as bad as the shit that goes on in Congo, though. |
Hmm? What do they do in the Congo? |
Assuming hes talking about the cutting off of the clitoris. |
That's...fucked up... |
I was thinking he was talking about the Diaphragms with spikes that would "bite" the guy's wang off...
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aika
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| This is not too far off on what a rape victim had to go through 30 or 40 years or so ago in -this- country. Maybe not physically, but a woman who was raped was subject to having her entire sexual history investigated and brought up in court. |
30 or 40 years ago we still had the human decency not to cram our fingers up a rape victim's vagina to see how loose it was.
I'm not so upset about the sexual history being used against these women. In some ways that still happens here. What I'm horrified by is the actual examination they're conducting.
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Ice2SeeYou
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
| Warlords and their soldiers will also sometimes rape an entire village's women into complacency. |
I need to get into politics. Can the president's marching band play Manowar's "Hail and Kill?"
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anorexorcist
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| Or Broke back mountain yesshhh |
Or any given episode of Oz.
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SoldierHawk
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| Or Broke back mountain yesshhh |
That was consensual. It was a love story dammit, and a good one.
Wtf? For the record, the hymen is no indication of virginity--it can be ruptured by something as routine as horseback riding. And also by something violently and traumatically being inserted into the body...you know, like if you were, I dunno, raped or something? Just saying.
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aeonic
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| Pandajuice wrote: |
| Yeah, it turns out places like India and the Middle East are still pretty behind the rest of the world culturally, so this isn't much of a surprise. That's why they are shitty cultures and should be reformed. |
When I say things like this, I get called narrow minded or intolerant. Lucky panda...
Seriously, though, it's stuff like this that makes me never want to go back to India. It was a terrible place and I didn't have fun there. It also smelled like ghee and B.O. and poop.
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Drew Linky
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Soldier Hawk's right. I've had friends who played soccer, and that's how their hymen broke. Go figure.
I can't really say anything that hasn't been said. Traumatizing, fuck India.
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Blackout
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What does the victim's sexual history have to do with anything? An unabashed slut could still be raped and it would still be, you know, rape!
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UsaSatsui
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What does the victim's sexual history have to do with anything? An unabashed slut could still be raped and it would still be, you know, rape!  |
Because she "asked for it", of course. She's been around, she wouldn't say no to sex. It sounds awful, but hell, even very recently date rape was pretty much "boys being boys". You remember that scene in Back to the Future when George slugged Biff? Nowadays Biff's probably getting 10 years for that. Back then? Well, that slut Lorraine was asking for it.
Sadly, a lot of rape trials a lot of times still boil down to "she says she said no, he says she said yes". But at least there's some improvement in the way things are handled.
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Blackout
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Men can't be raped. We can only be pleasured. |
You know if you woke up next to this in the morning with a wicked hangover you'd immediately think RAPE!
Regarding Usa's comment yeah, that's why I will not sleep with a woman who is intoxicated / drunk / whatever, no saying what tomorrow and clearer heads may bring.
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