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NASA scientists braced for 'solar tsunami' to hit earth


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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 11:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

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The earth could be hit by a wave of violent space weather as early as Tuesday after a massive explosion of the sun, scientists have warned.

The solar fireworks at the weekend were recorded by several satellites, including Nasa’s new Solar Dynamics Observatory which watched its shock wave rippling outwards. Astronomers from all over the world witnessed the huge flare above a giant sunspot the size of the Earth, which they linked to an even larger eruption across the surface of Sun.

The explosion was aimed directly towards Earth, which then sent a “solar tsunami” racing 93 million miles across space. Images from the SDO hint at a shock wave travelling from the flare into space, the New Scientist reported.

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http://current.com/technology/92581974_nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.htm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7923069/Nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.html


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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 12:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

They said if one of these solar flares occurred while we had astronauts out on the Moon, they would have been killed pretty quickly.

This is bad news for any astronauts currently in Space as they have no real protection by the Earth's magnetic field.

The flares are impossible to predict.


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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 04:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think anyone is under the false assumption that being in space is safe.

I do however wonder what the real repercussions form this event will be here on earth.



 
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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 05:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well its Tuesday and none of us are dead yet...that must be a good sign, right?


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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 06:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 07:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hm. Well, my internet was spazzing all day. Does that have anything to do with the solar flare? Razz


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PostPosted: Aug 03 2010 09:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Eh, that would be fitting; mankind reaches a high level of sophistication and tames most of the planet just to wiped out by an indifferent quirk of the universe...


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 12:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Eh, that would be fitting; mankind reaches a high level of sophistication and tames most of the planet just to wiped out by an indifferent quirk of the universe...

hehe. I wouldn't be mad if that's how the earth ended.


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 06:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well this is great news considering I'll be on an airplane 30,000 feet in the air on Thursday. Hopefully whatever effects will have passed by then, or it might be a pretty hairy flight...
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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 10:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

well, the next solar flareup is supposed to happen in 2011-2012, so this might be a bit premature.

that solar flare up is supposed to be a major shit storm, bigger than '89 when montreal lost power for 9 hours. at least, thats what speculated so far. almost as big as the one in 1859

(yeah i read up on it a bit)


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 11:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

Might be some blackout here or there tomorrow though.


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 01:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The sun is so evil!!


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 03:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

For some reason this evokes mental images of the power plant stage in Contra, with our astronauts out in space dodging jets of fire that shoot out from the sun.


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 04:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Oh hey, it's hot and humid as balls today. The sun wins again.


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 04:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
Might be some blackout here or there tomorrow though.

Don't worry, I'm here already!



 
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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 05:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

"solar tsunami"?

That sounds like some Final Fantasy Esper/Eidolon move. Hot shit!


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PostPosted: Aug 04 2010 07:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

StonedAutopilot wrote:
"solar tsunami"?

That sounds like some Final Fantasy Esper/Eidolon move. Hot shit!

This.


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Oh hey, it's hot and humid as balls today. The sun wins again.

Oh sweet mother of Hod, this is true times a million in Texas, but that's just the August weather. I hope.


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PostPosted: Sep 01 2010 04:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thu, Aug 26 12:50 PM

Melbourne, Aug 26 (ANI): Astronomers are predicting that a massive solar storm, much bigger in potential than the one that caused spectacular light shows on Earth earlier this month, is to strike our planet in 2012 with a force of 100 million hydrogen bombs.

Several US media outlets have reported that NASA was warning the massive flare this month was just a precursor to a massive solar storm building that had the potential to wipe out the entire planet's power grid.

Despite its rebuttal, NASA's been watching out for this storm since 2006 and reports from the US this week claim the storms could hit on that most Hollywood of disaster dates - 2012.

Similar storms back in 1859 and 1921 caused worldwide chaos, wiping out telegraph wires on a massive scale. The 2012 storm has the potential to be even more disruptive.

"The general consensus among general astronomers (and certainly solar astronomers) is that this coming Solar maximum (2012 but possibly later into 2013) will be the most violent in 100 years," News.com.au quoted astronomy lecturer and columnist Dave Reneke as saying.

"A bold statement and one taken seriously by those it will affect most, namely airline companies, communications companies and anyone working with modern GPS systems.

"They can even trip circuit breakers and knock out orbiting satellites, as has already been done this year," added Reneke.

No one really knows what effect the 2012-2013 Solar Max will have on today's digital-reliant society.

Dr Richard Fisher, director of NASA's Heliophysics division, told Reneke the super storm would hit like "a bolt of lightning", causing catastrophic consequences for the world's health, emergency services and national security unless precautions are taken.

NASA said that a recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause "1 to 2 trillion dollars in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to 10 years for complete recovery".

The reason for the concern comes as the sun enters a phase known as Solar Cycle 24.

Most experts agree, although those who put the date of Solar Max in 2012 are getting the most press.

They claim satellites will be aged by 50 years, rendering GPS even more useless than ever, and the blast will have the equivalent energy of 100 million hydrogen bombs.

"We know it is coming but we don't know how bad it is going to be," Fisher told Reneke.

"Systems will just not work. The flares change the magnetic field on the Earth and it's rapid, just like a lightning bolt. That's the solar effect," he added.

The findings are published in the most recent issue of Australasian Science. (ANI)


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PostPosted: Sep 01 2010 04:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Oh great, fuel for the conspiracy nuts.


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Stop trying to scare me with this shit you fucking assholes. You wouldn't like me when I'm scared.


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PostPosted: Sep 01 2010 06:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

People seem to keep living through these things every hundred years... I don't see that stopping.

I also don't see the US government allowing something like this to go down without a plan.



 
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PostPosted: Sep 01 2010 07:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
Oh great, fuel for the conspiracy nuts.

THEY'RE GONNA SET OFF AN EMP TO SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN, BLAME IT ON THE FLARE, THEN SHIP US ALL OFF TO FEMA CAMPS FOR OUR "SAFETY"!!! Razz



 
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PostPosted: Sep 02 2010 08:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Just another event in a long list of scare tactics: killer bees, SARS, H1N1, summer of the shark, Y2K, the rapture... I'm sure I forgot some. The only problem I expect to see is the price of gas going up when people start stock-piling.

Unfortunately, my mom has bought into the 2012 doomsday stuff. She bought a gun and some chickens. She actually had one of those old pump-wells installed on her property. I guess she'll get the last laugh if she's right.
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PostPosted: Sep 02 2010 09:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

I was thinking about this a bit more.

The cost of our digital lifestyles is not primarily due to the cost of goods. I mean, silicon is expensive, but it isn't gold.

No... the cost was companies learning how to make shit. Research and design is where our money goes... that and profit.

So, if the world has an EMP of doom, yes we will need to build new shit. Hopefully we were smart enough to keep the knowledge about how to make that new shit safe. Since every major university backs up their data with security companies, like Iron Mountain (who prepare for this type of event), they will only need to install new servers and upload the data to get it going again.

I imagine 99% of web companies and major business have the same practices and will be fine once they replace hardware failures.



 
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