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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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All it is is an attempt to further perpetuate the myth that there's really a difference, at least in the upper echelons, between Republican and Democratic leadership. There isn't any, so they just want people to watch the left/right fiction bunny so they can't see where the hands of the magician are really going. This country won't be great again in terms of leadership until we have viable third party candidates and less career politicians.
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Optimist With Doubts
Title: Titlating
Joined: Dec 17 2007
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That doesn't seem at all what this is about. Please don't derail and troll this topic with debates on party lines.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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Optimist, at least to my way of thinking, that's exactly what it's about. To me, it's a matter of drawing people's attention to what's being made into a partisan divide to keep them distracted from bigger issues. Unless you consider giving an opinion that's got a rational basis and isn't intended to flame trolling, I'm blameless here. If that is your opinion of trolling, well, I'm going to happily go back under my bridge. Fuck.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
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It's not partisan though. This is definitely an issue that has divided both parties with both conservatives and liberals coming out either in support or opposition of the mosque. This fact is evident on these boards with both the usually liberal SH defending the mosque as well as the confirmed conservative Syd.
I am pretty surprised though that just about everyone on Syd Lexia seems to be in favor of it with mine being the only dissenting opinion; and I don't even have a strong opinion one way or the other.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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I'll redact my statement then; given the coverage and the opinions put forth from politicos that I've personally seen, it seems like a ploy to split the citizenry down partisan lines, with the "conservatives" generally trending towards the 'no, it's unAmuuurrrrican! think of the victims' side, where as the "liberals" are on the 'we have to tolerate/allow everything' side. As for my own personal take on the matter, I don't care, other than that it seems, again, to me, to be a gigantic blind for other, more important things that media coverage could be focused on.
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Undeath
Title: Facepuncher of Asses
Joined: Jan 15 2009
Location: Here
Posts: 608
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Hoo boy... this issue sets wrong with me on several levels.
On the one hand, it is EXTREMELY xenophobic and religiously intolerant. This country was founded by people who were escaping the same sort of thing. People are real quick to get on right-wing AM talk radio and talk about how they're losing an American way of life, completely ironically forgetting that America had been built on, partially, a platform of religious freedom. It's hard to take it seriously when the very same people bitching about what America means and losing that are the same people who, through shit like this, are suppressing the very thing America actually is supposed to mean.
On the other hand, I'm not, nor did I know, any 9/11 victims. Some patriotic boob who has equally as little to do with it as me has absolutely no business protesting this mosque because of what I pointed out above-- hypocritical meaning of what America is and should be. However, can you REALLY fault people who have been personally affected? We all know racism is wrong, but are you as quick to point that out to a, say, black man, whose whole family was killed by Mexicans and he subsequently distrusts all Mexicans? Sure, he's wrong, but is he not allowed that fear? You're essentially telling him to "get over it," which is just as unsympathetic to him as denying a mosque to people who had nothing to do with 9/11 except sharing a common religion.
I must admit to being logic-bombed by this issue to the point where I can't pick a side either way. It's insensitive to the victims (not the random asshole, fuck him and his religious bigotry) but it's equally as insensitive to people who just want a place of worship that is guaranteed as their right in this country.
In other words, man, am I glad I don't have to make that decision. So my only real opinion can be "whatever happens, happens," just as long as it doesn't escalate into a violent or hateful situation.
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Rycona
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Title: The Maestro
Joined: Nov 01 2005
Location: Away from Emerald Weapon
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9/11 was almost 9 years ago now. When are we going to stop sucking the dicks of the 9/11 victims' families and all be citizens again? Why does it matter what they think about this anyway? They don't own the land. They don't work in/on it, obviously. If they think their voices are important, it's only because politics and/or the media allow them to be, just like celebrities. They've become the antithesis of Jon and Kate Plus 8, except with more pull.
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The Opponent
Title: Forum Battle WINNER
Joined: Feb 24 2010
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We still treat families affected by the Holocaust with reverence, so it'll probably be a long while before we put 9/11 completely behind us.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
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Hell, we're still feeling guilty about slavery and that was 150 years ago.
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E. Most Peninsula
Title: The Third Wheel
Joined: Mar 19 2010
Location: The Arid Void (Texas).
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Well, what if the mosque is some form of informal peace treaty? Like, "Those other guys fucked up, but we aren't them. We want to be part of your community peacefully and respectfully." I can say this, though. The youth leader at my church is as Fox News about this as possible. To quote: "There's no thing as Muslim extremists. They're all muslims... There's no such thing as Christian extremists, they aren't Christians." He also somehow got duped into thinking the Koran (that is a proper alternate spelling) says that Muslims must kill anyone that isn't Muslim. Any wonder why I want to move from TX to Toronto?
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Douche McCallister
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Title: DOO-SHAY
Joined: Jan 26 2007
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It's called the constitution people. The second you start making case by case decisions of what can and can't be done we might as well just burn it to ash. We are fighting wars in the name of the Free World and for the protection of our Constitution. One of those rights is Freedom of religion. Taking that away makes us one step closer to that which we are fighting.
Obama supported the Mosque and people were calling for his head. Mainly because the media initially made it sound like the Mosque was being built across the street. It's sad though because I know it's going to be the site of constant vandalism by ignorant people.
We are American. When and anly when American's are strictly one race and one religion then we can discuss the obsurdity of religious centers being built. Until then live eat and pray how you want.
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JRA
Joined: Sep 17 2007
Location: The Opium Trail
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A new Anal Cunt song title should be "The Muslims are Actually Building a Gay Bathhouse near Ground Zero."
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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
Location: That Rainy State
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What about that dude who was arrested for his impeach Obama sign? How come it's only on the conspiracy sites and youtube? Is the mainstream covering it all?
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JRA
Joined: Sep 17 2007
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| What about that dude who was arrested for his impeach Obama sign? How come it's only on the conspiracy sites and youtube? Is the mainstream covering it all? |
It's the first time I've heard of it.
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SNESGuy
Title: El Duderino
Joined: Jul 31 2010
Location: Da D.C
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| Blackout wrote: |
| What about that dude who was arrested for his impeach Obama sign? How come it's only on the conspiracy sites and youtube? Is the mainstream covering it all? |
It's the first time I've heard of it. |
Thats because Obama is the "messiah" to alot of people and the media. I personally dont think hes amazing but not terrible, but alot of people ride his dick and dont know his actual political views, polices, etc.
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Optimist With Doubts
Title: Titlating
Joined: Dec 17 2007
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Yo Imma let you finish about this mosque but Obama can go suck 500 dicks amiright?
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Ice2SeeYou
Title: Sexual Tyrannosaurus
Joined: Sep 28 2008
Location: South of Heaven
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| Optimist With Doubts wrote: |
| Yo Imma let you finish about this mosque but Obama can go suck 500 dicks amiright? |
In a row?
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JRA
Joined: Sep 17 2007
Location: The Opium Trail
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| Ice2SeeYou wrote: |
| Optimist With Doubts wrote: |
| Yo Imma let you finish about this mosque but Obama can go suck 500 dicks amiright? |
In a row? |
EPIC WIN!
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