SteelBallRun wrote:

FNJ wrote: Quote: Dimitri shouldn't be included anyway, but not because of the midnight bliss. he shouldn't be included because he's literally the darkstalkers equivalent of ryu. If Dimitri is Ryu, then Morrigan is Ken by far. Fireball? Check. DP? Check. They could easily sub the two and there's enough differences between them to keep things fresh. No matter, there's not enough DS love to get anybody else anyways. *cue big weepy gothic tears*

morrigan's dash and air dash ALONE make her an interesting addition to any vs. game's roster. there are other things, like her super where she flies across the screen and comes back from the other end. her downward air fireballs are also an interesting concept when mixed with her already strange air dash.

if dimitri were a vs. cahracter, he'd probably shoot straight fireballs on the ground, shoot straight fireballs in the air, shoot a giant fireball as a super, and have his weirdo teleport dash, but only on the ground.

I was referring to her angled dashes, but the universal air dash has been taken out., anyway. Guys like Chris Redfield and Ryu can no longer do it like they did in the early videos. This has dramatically changed Chris's game plan. He doesn't look at exciting anymore.

SteelBallRun wrote:

Quote: morrigan's dash and air dash ALONE make her an interesting addition to any vs. game's roster. there are other things, like her super where she flies across the screen and comes back from the other end. her downward air fireballs are also an interesting concept when mixed with her already strange air dash. That super is awful and a total waste most of the time. To me, she's still a DS-Shoto and she's nothing amazing in the vs games. I'm more of the mindset to mix up the character base and after 3 vs appearances, she can be retired. She's not interesting anymore and hasn't been in a while. No universal air dash anymore? Ouch, I do think that's a bad idea.

What's so awful about the super? It does a ton of hits and is fun for mixups, even if it has slow startup. if used in good timing, such as during DHCs, it can be great fun. The same could be said of her missile super, especially because it can be aimed.

I don't really see how Morrigan is a shoto, either. This all goes back to my "you can have a fireball and dragon punch and not be a ryu clone" argument. She's a fast combofiend with a command throw. she relies on her great mixups and has some decent pokes. Not really a shoto.

But I digress. I wasn't even talking about how good a character was, so much as I was talking about how much fun they are to play as. I enjoy Morrigan in these games. Dimitri wouldn't have been as fun as her. They still should have given us Lord Raptor or Jedah.

On the subject of the UAD being removed, I agree that it sucks, but I can understand why they did it. Everyone having an air dash made the game more rushdown friendly. Judging distances and playing the range game became less important. The world isn't ready for a wolverine that can air dash.

I read about the disclusion of UAD on the shoryuken boards, from guys that had a chance to play it at comic con. You can really see it for yourself if you compare early videos of Chris Redfield especially to later ones. He seems to have changed the most because of this.

I guess Capcom's thing is that they only want to give double jumps and air dashes to characters that have the powers to do it anyway, like Dante and Iron Man.





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oh BTW, here's a new vid. it shows Ameratsu, Dormammu, Viewtiful Joe, and Thor in action. Joe looks like a whole new character. Also note Dormammu's and Ameratsu's lvl. 3 supers, as well as Ameratsu's winpose:

no, you're right. it wasn't in the video. I mistook that second super with teh exploding ball for it.

Chris Redfield has a certain charm to him that Punisher would lack. Punisher would just be a dude with a bunch of guns. Chris actually has all of his mannerisms from RE5, like the way he jumps or his "boulder punches". he's got more personality than Frank.

I would gladly accept Castle instead of Chris, if it meant we'd be guaranteed Wesker, though.

I honestly find all of the subtle changes that they've made to the returning characters very interesting. Ryu that can aim Shinku Hadouken? Chun-Li with a Kikouken that crumple stuns? A highly offensive Dr. Doom who can do more than assist? Yes please!

All of the new characters look like they have potential for fun. Super Skrull and Chris Redfield are my most anticipated, but you can't deny Dante and Thor, either.

I'm not sure what's not to find interesting about a character like Dante, who has over twenty situational special moves, and ridiculous potential for relaunches and bounces. You gotta at least love Iron Man's new Lvl.3 super.

The boulder would be an excellent final boss. I'm hoping it at least makes a cameo in chris's ending.

We don't have to OD on playable megaman characters, but cameos would be cute. I hope roll makes a comeback. she was a beast in TVC. if not her, I'd settle for megaman.exe or megaman zero.