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How is taxing an organization for owning property dangerous and deadly and an abuse of people's expression?

Property tax I'd be more willing to accept though it's up in the air in my head right now... Maybe I don't like exactly how our government has it now, but I don't support to any degree the radical notion of taxing them as a business. That is very obviously hurtful to expression, communications and execution of beliefs in general. If i need to explain, i'll be willing to go in depth on a follow up post, exactly what i mean, but it's fairly clear.

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I am just saying if they got rid of the toy and still kept the small portions that less children would want to have them.

I'm saying it's not the crux of the problem, and it will have little impact. Maybe they'll go to BK more now. Or they'll go the store and buy a toy then go out for McD's.

It's other issues we need to solve, and this is a silly and ineffective, and perhaps even wrong way to tackle the problem.

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You keep saying how harmful it is with no explanation. Give at least some reasoning behind it beyond "it's obvious", or shut the fuck up.

Here's the classic Jeebus response, you'e a fucking retard, and i'll happily explain why : ).

If you tax the money used to spread your ideas it's going to hinder the spread of your ideas and hence the idea itself.

If you tax the money used to express your ideas (say I want to use my money, and together with another guy's money to buy stuff for kids in africa, and they tax us for pooling our money together to do that) then you'll hinder the expression of the beliefs.

I don't think the government has any grounds to tax me for such a case as sited above, for executing my beliefs, nor do they have grounds to tax me for congregating together and spreading my beliefs. People should have complete free expression without any hindering on it.

That doesn't mean the government should support them, but they should offer no resistance. I think it's dangerous to tax in that situation and wrong to tax people's expression of belief.

Essentially if we did it we'll have fewer belief system options, and the growth and expression will be lessened, since you're taxing the funds used to do those things. The only thing I can do now is give specific examples, if it's still not obvious how this would effect belief system structures.

Really just need to answer two questions.

Would taxation hinder belief systems? Should government hinder belief systems?

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Please elaborate.

All I mean is I just view the constitution as the best ideas of many smart old guys from the past, I give it no sacred properties, nor view it as infallible, for me it's a guideline and a starting points for thoughts on the issues of governance. Obviously I have to follow all rules that are currently in place, but I don't treat them as infallible regardless the source. The only thing it means to me when someone says that would be unconstitutional, would be that it'd be hard to change the ruling, since you'd need to make a constitutional amendment, and secondly you're going against the combined wisdom of many smart people, so carefully check your reasoning (they are many situations they couldn't have anticipated, but they made a surprisingly resilient, and adaptable piece of work.)

How do i write this so even you can understand?
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Newstation and magazine are for profit, and are not a "belief system structure/group" they're advertisers.
On the second part of how does it hinder a religion/belief system if you tax them. Well, if you tax them they have less money so they can do less.

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How does taxing a religion for the money they make hinder their ability to spread their beliefs.

That's the money they use to do it, if you tax the pool they use for those things they won't be able to do them as well. Secondly I don't see on what grounds you ought be able to tax them from that.

If I want to go grab my money and spend it on printing bibles and giving them out, and my friend Jim wants to do the same so we pool our money together(aka he gave a donation to my cause) I don't see why that initial pooling of money would be taxed. If people are giving us donations I don't see why tax them. Hey I agree with you, let's all buy this together that is what's happening in reality.

On the for profit issues, and money not used for development, spreading, and execution of the belief system, I'd say tax it.

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Syd, no one had mentioned religions as being non-profit organizations, which is the key.

You haven't read my posts then, because I spelled that out exactly.. when saying all money they raise that is put back into the congregations goals should not be taxed, is exactly pointing out that there not for profit, and I even used that term. I even went one step further and argued for why they should not tax them even if they're not-for profit cause. Because in doing so you'd be hindering the expressino and execution of belief system. I stated that all money that goes back into their congregation (should not be taxed), I think said why i think that money should not be taxed. This first part is showing they're not-for-profit and the second part is showing why to not tax their non-for-profit raising of money.

I even went so far to say that money given to say the church leader as a salary should be taxed as any other income would. Because it's not being spent back into their cause. If you read what i said with care i made a stronger point than it's just non-for-profit, and I argued taxing all the profit portions if they're exist any.

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Can you please start your own website, so I don't have to go through this bullshit?

Why are you posting in a non-gaming related thread topic if you don't want to read post on non-gaming stuff? I really just don't even follow what you're saying.

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Or leave the forum

If you or fernin or anyone else has any issues please feel free to report me, you don't need to spam up threads all that comes out of this is trolling.