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Title: owner of a lonely heart
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Getting your kids to not eat fast food may have just gotten a whole lot easier in San Francisco. No more happy meals.
They’re not planning to ban the meal as much as the toy that comes with it, but really…the toy is what makes the happy meal. The government there feels that toys are used as incentives to get children to want more kids’ meals and are contributing to childhood obesity.
Happy meal = Toy = “MOM! I WANT A HAPPY MEAL!”
Sound familiar? How could the children possibly live without completing the set of kids’ meal toys? It would be such a shame to have Homer, Marge, Lisa and Maggie with no Bart Simpson. |
http://current.com/green/92603861_san-francisco-moving-to-ban-happy-meals.htm
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http://eatdrinkbetter.com/2010/08/12/san-francisco-moving-to-ban-happy-meals/
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...This is bullshit
"Mom I want a happy meal" "No" "BUT I WANT IT" "okay I'll get you one to shut you up"
People need to learn how to be parents again. Telling your damn kid "No" and then taking them to a place other than McDonald's shouldn't be a problem.
It really bugs me that we live in such an egotistical generation that causes people to blame something that fueled their actions rather than their lack of self control.
If your kid is a fat fuck because you take him to McDonald's to avoid cooking, or because it's convenient then it's your own damn fault.
On the issue of California having new nutritional standards for meals that come with toys, I say responsibility lies with the parents and not the corporation
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aeonic
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Hacker wrote: |
...This is bullshit
"Mom I want a happy meal" "No" "BUT I WANT IT" "okay i'll get you one to shut you up"
People need to learn how to be parents again. Telling your damn kid "No" and then taking them to a place other than McDonald's shouldn't be a problem.
It really bugs me that we live in such an egotistical generation that causes people to blame something that fueled their actions rather than their lack of self control |
I couldn't agree more, Hacker. When your cat starts miauling or your dog barks, do you instantly rush to gratify it all the time, or do you tell it to shut the fuck up and go lay down? Same basic principle works with children, I know, that's how I was raised. The only real differences between children and pets are that children get into more shit and have less of a self-preservation instinct.
The problem is, the world is full of lazy fucks who feel that the only possible place they could get their child a meal is Mickey D's, and there you have it. Make them some fish sticks and tell them to kiss your ass if you don't like it. The amount of government dependency that most parents nowadays (which is my generation and the one right before it, the so called Gen X) makes me sick. Didn't they have (possibly slightly abusive) parents of their own? How did they not take a few hints?
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aeonic wrote: |
The problem is, the world is full of lazy fucks who feel that the only possible place they could get their child a meal is Mickey D's, and there you have it. Make them some fish sticks and tell them to kiss your ass if you don't like it. The amount of government dependency that most parents nowadays (which is my generation and the one right before it, the so called Gen X) makes me sick. Didn't they have (possibly slightly abusive) parents of their own? How did they not take a few hints? |
I agree, people shouldn't depend on the government to tell them what's okay and what isn't.
But unfortunately common sense, and logic has become ever more fleeting over the past few years.
I used to have this teacher. She is fat as hell because rather than spending $1.75 on a nutritional school lunch she would go to Mcd's or KFC every day and spend somewhere between $5 and $10 all because she didn't like the taste. She always complained she was out of money and she always left half eaten food things in her room.
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Drew Linky
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Answer to overweight children? Don't have any more stupid fucking children.
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Rogue Hippo
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I'm fricking thrilled that they're banning Happy Meal toys in California. I wish they'd do it everywhere.
I understand people who don't want government control but America is the fattest nation on earth... by far. Americans have proven that we're too stupid to take care of ourselves.
And the standard response is "Its nobody's business what I feed my kids!" Well you're WRONG. Obesity related illnesses like diabetes and heart disease are the #1 cause of rising health care costs in America. Your fat kids are costing me money.
I'd prefer it if we had more responsible parents so we didn't need laws like this but that's not gonna happen.
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aeonic
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Rogue Hippo wrote: |
I'm fricking thrilled that they're banning Happy Meal toys in California. I wish they'd do it everywhere.
I understand people who don't want government control but America is the fattest nation on earth... by far. Americans have proven that we're too stupid to take care of ourselves.
And the standard response is "Its nobody's business what I feed my kids!" Well you're WRONG. Obesity related illnesses like diabetes and heart disease are the #1 cause of rising health care costs in America. Your fat kids are costing me money.
I'd prefer it if we had more responsible parents so we didn't need laws like this but that's not gonna happen. |
If those sheeple can't handle their shit, that's their fault. Doesn't mean if I have a well-heeled kid I shouldn't be able to buy them chicken nuggets and a cheap Chinese toy once in a while. I don't have health insurance because other than smoking, I take care of my body. I work out and engage in the occasional fistfight! Not to mention the fact that it's a stupid fucking law to begin with. Now they'll say, "I want a cheeseburger and fries" and they'll still get fucking fat. What a waste of taxpayer resources to even bring it up.
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aeonic wrote: |
Rogue Hippo wrote: |
I'm fricking thrilled that they're banning Happy Meal toys in California. I wish they'd do it everywhere.
I understand people who don't want government control but America is the fattest nation on earth... by far. Americans have proven that we're too stupid to take care of ourselves.
And the standard response is "Its nobody's business what I feed my kids!" Well you're WRONG. Obesity related illnesses like diabetes and heart disease are the #1 cause of rising health care costs in America. Your fat kids are costing me money.
I'd prefer it if we had more responsible parents so we didn't need laws like this but that's not gonna happen. |
If those sheeple can't handle their shit, that's their fault. Doesn't mean if I have a well-heeled kid I shouldn't be able to buy them chicken nuggets and a cheap Chinese toy once in a while. I don't have health insurance because other than smoking, I take care of my body. I work out and engage in the occasional fistfight! Not to mention the fact that it's a stupid fucking law to begin with. Now they'll say, "I want a cheeseburger and fries" and they'll still get fucking fat. What a waste of taxpayer resources to even bring it up. |
I agree with Aeonic, people need to learn self control and quit ruining stuff for others
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sidewaydriver
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I'm moving to San Francisco so I can sell Happy Meals on the black market. I'm gonna be rich.
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Douche McCallister
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If we weren't one of the most richest nations I would agree completely, but peoples standards of living here are much higher then other places leading to people to buy more, when your out shopping and everything in the mall is fast food your not gonna be like "I'd like to eat but nah I got Fish Sticks at home." We are one of the fatest nations because we can afford to eat. Places like England actually have it instilled in society to eat small meals compared to our All you can eats every other mile. Until we are forced to eat rice and potatoes every meal like in the great depression we are going to get fatter. Not to mention physically active jobs are being taken over by machinery.
This wasn't an attack against anyones opinion just a statement of my own.
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Rogue Hippo
Title: Lone Wolf Hippo
Joined: Jun 28 2010
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I bet it will make a difference.
I worked with a kid with a learning disability for about 2 years. His parents set up a deal that if he did all of his school work for the week, he could choose a place to go out to eat. He'd choose Subway 90% of the time. But if there was Pixar toy in the Happy Meal then we'd go to McDonalds for a month so he could collect them all. Then it was back to Subway. He didn't really even like the food at McDonalds... he just wanted the toys. If they take the toys away, that kid will never eat at McDonalds again.
Also, if my choices are other people's fat kids getting a toy or I save $50/month on my health insurance... I'm gonna take the money and buy some Magic cards. But I don't get the money... and now my friendly neighborhood gaming store goes out of business.
In conclusion, Happy Meal toys are making kids fatter, costing me money and bankrupting gaming stores. BAN THEM!!
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Syd Lexia
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DAMN THE MAN! SAVE THE HAPPY MEAL!
Honestly, a Happy Meal isn't that unhealthy.
The Happy Meal with most calories has 700. That's just over 1/3 of the recommended FDA intake of 2000 calories. The most calorie-rich Happy Meal is:
Cheeseburger
Small Fries
1% Chocholate Milk (8 ounces)
And if you subsitute a sugary soda or regular milk for the chocolate milk, it becomes 640 calories.
If you replace the Cheeseburger with a Hamburger, you save 50 calories. And if you get your kid Chicken Nuggets, Apple Dippers instead of Fries, and Apple Juice to drink, it's only 380 calories.
380-700 calories for what is supposed to be a full meal is perfectly reasonable. The bowl of pasta that the kid is gonna served for dinner some other night drenched in sauce, meatballs, and cheese is going to have more calories than that. As long as you're not buying your kid a Happy Meal as a snack or giving them one every two hours, there's no problem. And if you are buying your kid a Happy Meal as a snack, then banning Happy Meals isn't going to help. They'll just shovel some other bullshit down their throat, like a whole box of Chips Ahoy, because you're a dipshit who shouldn't be allowed to have children.
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Rogue Hippo
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I actually get a Happy Meal when I go to McDonalds... because that's about the right calorie intake for 1 meal for an adult. Unfortunately, many adults go with the super-sized double quarter-pounder with cheese value meal which is about an entire days worth of calories. Maybe we can get a law banning the Super Size option??
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Syd Lexia
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Clearly you haven't been in a McDonald's in the last six years. They got ride of the Super Size right after Morgan Spurlock Presents Calorie Intake Alarmism For Dumpy Idiots came out.
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Blackout
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So are they banning ONLY Happy Meals? Because most of McDonald's competitors have a similar marketing strategy in their kids menu.
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SteelBallRun
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I'm fricking thrilled that they're banning Happy Meal toys in California. I wish they'd do it everywhere.
I understand people who don't want government control but America is the fattest nation on earth... by far. Americans have proven that we're too stupid to take care of ourselves. |
We're too stupid because we ALLOW organizations like the government to make our choices and thus don't think for ourselves, not the other way around. Instead of taking control of our own lives, we hand it over daily and then act surprised when complications arise.
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In conclusion, Happy Meal toys are making kids fatter, costing me money and bankrupting gaming stores. BAN THEM!! |
Faulty logic. As Syd mentioned, taking away a Happy Meal won't make a difference if said family knows nothing about eating healthy or living a healthy lifestyle to begin with. Most families know shit about either and that's what their children grow up with.
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Greg the White
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It's not just calories that make something healthy/unhealthy. McDonald's food typically has high amounts of sugar and fat (hell, even the milk there is sugared to hell), which lead to health complications like diabetes (which has had a surge in child patients over the years). Couple that with the typical American high protein/carb diet, dangerous meat/produce, and the typically unhealthy school meals (eaten five times a week), and we're really just piling more and more crap onto a young childrens' bodies that all need a good balance of proper nutrients in order to develop in a healthy way. This also becomes a drain on health insurance when we have to send big, sick people to the hospital regularly because they can't be bothered to choke down a salad once in a while.
As far as the Happy Meal goes, it's not going to do much, and it's kind of asinine. If a kid is eating crap like that regularly enough that it's harmful, then we may as well just take the kid away from the family, since they obviously either can't care for the child, or don't give a shit about its health.
When it comes down to it, the ideal solution really is about personal responsibility, but the typical American attitude these days is "fuck it, I only care about me," which leads to our obesity epidemics, and lack of public funding for good meals in schools and dietary education, and the continued use of poisons in our food (mercury in fish/hormones in meat). I really don't trust people to suddenly take personal responsibility in our lazy culture, so I'm fine with the government mandating food, but it can't be knee-jerk reactions to a documentary focused one business. If anything, we should be looking to reform broader things like the use of trans-fats, HFCS, hormones, clean tapwater, pollution, etc. instead of just telling one particular business that they can't serve one item on their list.
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Syd Lexia
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Happy Meals range between 12-49 grams of sugar per meal, with most being around 30 grams. They also range between 12-27 grams of fat per meal, with most being around 20 grams. Neither of these numbers is remarkably high. One area where the meal content needs work is sodium content. Each Happy Meal contains at least 33% of the daily recommended sodium intake.
McDonald's is not the healthiest thing in the world for you, but the perception that it is unhealthy is false. Over the last 6 years, McDonald's has taken many steps to improve the health content of its food. It is healthier than many of the alternatives. Not just against other fast food, but compared to perennial children's favorites such as Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, Chef Boyardee, and Kid Cuisine. A single can of Chef Boyardee can contain over 100% of your recommended sodium intake for the day.
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aeonic
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Fuck yeah! The primary problem, from what I've seen, is the lack of physical activity in these children's lives that really fucks them over. I'm not an athlete or anything like that, but my parents frequently told me to get the fuck out of the house and go play, and I did just that. There wasn't any internet to surf, and we only had so many Nintendo games, so once I'd beaten them all, I had to wait for birthdays or Christmas (and one incredible Easter) until I was in my teens. Get them off the fucking couch and out of their bedrooms. Be willing to pay a fucking phys ed teacher to run their little asses around instead of cutting the program at school. I'm not saying I loved phys ed, but it's the reason I'm not a bloated fucker now. Make these kids do something, and for God's fucking sake, don't give your elementary students a fucking cellphone, you cunts!
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I personally don't care for mcdonalds, so they can do whatever the fuck they want.
I agree wih aeonic though. These fucking kids don't play like they used to. Unless those kids are poor, they won't go outside to play. Granted, az is too fucking hot to realistically go outside.
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aeonic
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True, but they have indoor places to go run around here. Shit, put them in the playplace at McDonalds, I used to go apeshit in those. I grew up in PA on a farm, so we ran around like crazy fucks. Dodgeball, kickball, baseball, just playing kid games and stuff. That's part of what being a kid is about. That's why schools have recess, right?
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aeonic wrote: |
True, but they have indoor places to go run around here. Shit, put them in the playplace at McDonalds, I used to go apeshit in those. I grew up in PA on a farm, so we ran around like crazy fucks. Dodgeball, kickball, baseball, just playing kid games and stuff. That's part of what being a kid is about. That's why schools have recess, right? |
You mean used to have recess. That shit is going the way of the dinosaur far faster than Happy Meals ever will. God that depresses me.
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Yeah banning happy meals wont all of the sudden make children skinny, Parents really need to start being proactive and making sure their kids arent sitting infront of the computer, TV or playing ps3/360 (snes was a way better system then either of those anyways, turtles in time, knights of the round, super contra... you cant argue with that) I mean really when I was a kid and had the legendary super nintendo even I was banned from inside until bedtime, I was a city kid but we played plenty of street hockey, soccer, army, tag, built tree forts... just whatever you do as kids stuck outside, only extreme weather conditions kept us indoors and we all survived, if for some bizarre reason I end up having children of my own, they definitely wont be in the house when its nice out.... of course the neighborhood kids will probably just turn them into potheads anyways  oh society, how I hate thee...
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 Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
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That is not the problem. It's parents being lazy and giving their kids fast food. Parents not being discplined to tell their children no, when they ask for fast food. That toy will change little.. they coudl easily buy their child a toy.
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Syd and I had McDonalds ever Friday from the time we were like 4 until the end of high school. Syd has never been overweight in his life and I didn't really start gaining weight until Sophomore year of high school when I had a job so I could go out to eat all the time with my friends (We never had an allowance).
Rogue Hippo wrote: |
I'm fricking thrilled that they're banning Happy Meal toys in California. I wish they'd do it everywhere.
I understand people who don't want government control but America is the fattest nation on earth... by far. Americans have proven that we're too stupid to take care of ourselves.
And the standard response is "Its nobody's business what I feed my kids!" Well you're WRONG. Obesity related illnesses like diabetes and heart disease are the #1 cause of rising health care costs in America. Your fat kids are costing me money.
I'd prefer it if we had more responsible parents so we didn't need laws like this but that's not gonna happen. |
I have a better idea: instead of banning Happy Meals and mandating/socializing health care, LET PEOPLE DIE. It's the only way anyone else will ever fucking learn.
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