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I'd ask JonSnow what he thinks. Or you can just wait. He'll give you his advice for free eventually.

Ya, I don't charge people like Klimb....

I already gave you my overall advice, if you can avoid joining the army, and go straight to college, that is what i would do.

First off, they do pay for your school, but being in there is risky shit.. secondly, even if you do their "they give you four years of school, you give them 4 years" gimmick.. you're talking... you're 27 years old before you can explore a career outside the army. And your education is 4 years rusty in your head, lastly you need to make sure you finish in those 4 years, some people take 5.. and it depends on what you're interested in.

There is job security, there are benifits, room for growth (i don't even know how promotions work), there will be some degree of family bonding with them, which is nice, they'll train you so you'll be physically healthier (even though i think that training/requirements has become more lax.)... Those are the pros... the cons: eats a large chunk of your life, chance of significant injury/death, especially during wartime, it becomes your lifestyle, the military is what you'll know, live and breathe, don't expect the pay to afford you enough to raise a family in any sort of luxury...

anyway enough about that... I think you need to reflect about what you like, do you have any passions, something that excites you? Do you enjoy or are particularly good at something? I don't know how old are you.. but if it's friendship you lack, you can gain much of that in college, just participate in any sort of club you like... sports, reading, writing.. if you can think it up they got it.. love dnd, go play it, multiple times a week. Love bondage and sex, go have it... they have crazy extremes... it's ridiculous. every type of person, from all over the world. I'd look into going to college for one year, then go from there. It's more expensive but i'd also recommend dorm life the first year, then apartment life (for lower cost). Stay on top of your classes, no matter what it takes, then do whatever you want. Also a great place to find a g/f.

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The most I have ever done is ~190 in 58 minutes... but I never had my sights on anything, it was just part of the workout. Now I know what must be done.

You must be light as shit... that is ridiculous. Do they have a criteria on what angle your elbow joint must be at, to qualify as an extension for a pull up? The lame little bunny pull ups don't count. More cardio than an arm work out. Better not be using your your legs, to swing upward.

I guess I'm thinking consecutive.. you must be taking breaks.. do 10-15, then a 2min break, rinse and repeat.

EDIT: By the way i agree with you GPF, and not Jeebus in the other army thread.

For 2 reasons.

1.) Jeebus was contradicting himself, in saying that only family and friend can give advice on this military topic. Whereas he was giving in advice to the guy on the military topic namely on who he should and shouldn't listen to.

Don't listen to anybody but family and friend.. wait i'm neither of those things, so that would mean don't listen to me.

2.) So obviously he realizes when he puts his mind to it that people outside of military experience, just by logic, and understanding the militaries agenda, and what they do, can make reasonable and general pros and cons assessment. Just like a person who never has died before, can speak about how dying would suck. Because they understand the various ramifications of it..

Similarly, I've read my history, I've talked to Military recruiters, i've talked to people in the military both in ROTC, basic training, and people who've been overseas, and people who've fought in wars. That's not to say i'm an expert, i haven't felt the fear.. the rush of death. I haven't killed so many people i've dulled my feeling. I haven't experienced great pain, amputation, post dramatic stress disorder. I've never killed someone. There's a lot of shit i can only imagine, but i can still tell you the outline of how it can suck. If by nothing else the examples we have in veterans we know, and in the history books we've read. Even without those examples, I think extrapulation is possible.

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All in all I agree with Jeebus that discussing the issue with those it'll affect, and you care for, and care for you is a good idea, but according to Jeebus you shouldn't even listen to him. Unless he's secretly your brother.

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what he stated, explicitly, is that he feels that nobody here really has a right to tell him one way or the other what to do because nobody knows him, and that the only really beneficial information he can get to fuel his decision is from one of the service members who knows what it's like to be in the military. nobody knows his interests, what he likes doing, what he's good at, etc. He's saying we can't make an informed decision one way or the other. never, NOT ONCE did he suggest anything, one way or the other, to fluxicor.

He suggested listening to knowledgeable/next of kin people. That's ADVICE. Do I have to spell it out for you.


It's like someone tells you, Don't believe anything you hear?

Well you have to question that statement don't you? And that statements proves there is at least one statement you can believe, IF that statment is true, then hey there's something you can accept. If that statement is false, well then clearly there are true statement out there you can listen to. I'm not going to explain how this is analogous to Jeebus's statement.


My second claim is you can make reasonable conjectures.

I can go look up the chance of dying during this wartime depending what part of hte military you go into. And assuming (a big assumption) he doesn't want to die, that is a very valid risk that he needs to have a realistic scope of. He doesn't need to go in there thinking i have a 100% chance to get wounded, maimed, or killed. But he needs to assess the risks and his choices.

Do you understand now? Is it case specific advice, No, i can't give it, because i don't know him personally, I'd have to interview him, and be friends with him for awhile to give that kind of info. But you can still give relevant information, that is useful.

Everything is taken care of in my post, I only expect to a read an ok, I understand Jon. DAMMIT.


Jeebus: When it comes to military topics (we're on a military topic now), don't listen to anybody but kin.

Response: are you my brother? If not why am i listening to you about this military topic advice.

Look what Jeebus did here, without knowing anything about the military he knew joining would affect the kids family, and others so based on that, even though he has no personal experience, he extrapulated the conclusion go talk to your family.